sftp clients and Hetzner cheap hosting
From: Dan Lyke via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------ I've got 3 domains, and a Hetzner cheap server, and a bunch of friends who want cheap hosting, so I decided to throw down a couple of bucks and try out Hetzner's shared server product, to put my stuff that's largely static on that service, and see if they can deal with my email and whatnot. There's no SSH access, which means I haven't figured out how to get rsync to access it. I have pushed one of those sites up there via sftp with "put -r", but it seems awfully wasteful to push the whole damned site up again every time. I could write a bit of shell script to have a check file and sftp put everything in that check file and then touch the check file, but... anyone have a favorite sftp client that gets sync right? Aaaand, anyone else mucking about with Hetzner cheap hosting? Anything I should know? I'd love to push portions of my social media posting/rss/database thingie up there, but don't know where they are on Perl vs PHP vs whatever, what packages they have installed, all of that stuff that I'll have to figure out. Dan=============================================================== From: "Greg Laudeman, Ed.D. via chugalug" ------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for bringing this up, Dan. I'm very interested. Is it practical to deploy containers on Hetzner? We have a new initiative to make open source software easily accessible and usable by regular folks. Hosting is a critical issue. William Roush just set up a staging for Chattanooga.Digital using Portainer. It's freaking awesome! Part of what's cool about it is the ability to have multiple stacks running totally separately on the same host. (I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.) Could we do something similar with Hetzner? As much as I appreciate Digital Ocean, it would be great to have lower cost hosting. Have you looked at containers? Is that possible/practical? -- *Greg Laudeman, Ed.D.* *Executive Officer and Principal* *Eduity, LLC* www.eduity.net greg@eduity.net 706-271-5521
=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------ A container is just a chroot file path, so, yeah (you can always rent a machine to run it on). I haven't played around much with that kind of packaging because it's generally so heavyweight. And that's not gonna work on the level of cheap that is the cheap shared hosting that I'm pursuing. o c t e
=============================================================== From: Lee Walker via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------ Is Hetzner really that much cheaper than Digital Ocean? No shell/shell access is a real deal breaker. Seems to be set up for the non technical types. DO has been great. I can spin up a server configured correctly in under 15 mins thanks to Ansible. If I can't Ansible on Hetzner that's also a total deal breaker for me. Lee Walker Principal Engineer 404-405-1194 l.s.walker (Skype) www.codejourneymen.com Code Journeymen LLC 1028 Signal Mountain Road Suite #103, Chattanooga TN, 37405 o c t e
=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------ Hetzner gives me my own image (I think it's a shared CPU, I'm running Ubuntu) with 4G of RAM for =E2=82=AC 3.79/month. I think Digital Ocean's eq= uivalent starts at $24/month (they have a $4/mo droplet, but that's only half a gig of RAM). I'm serving a couple million requests a day off that, using Postgres and Perl with FastCGI, without problems. I've been using my own shell/machine via Hetzner or Scaleway for years and years now, and my main reason for wanting to go with their managed shared service is to let someone else deal with mail. But I also have a couple of friends who need mail and some static page serving, and if they can do that for a =E2=82=AC or two per month per domain, they'll be overjoyed. Having a solution I can point people to where I don't do any of the management: good= . 5 o ot. c ut n ne
=============================================================== From: William Walker via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------
=============================================================== From: Lee Walker via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------ I just noticed that if you use PHP, then Laravel forge https://forge.laravel.com/ will create a server and manage deployments onto it (via Git) with Hetzzner. That could be quite useful too. On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:10=E2=80=AFPM Dan Lyke via chugalug wrote: ntu) with 4G of RAM for =E2=82=AC 3.79/month. I think Digital Ocean's equiv= alent starts at $24/month (they have a $4/mo droplet, but that's only half = a gig of RAM). I'm serving a couple million requests a day off that, using = Postgres and Perl with FastCGI, without problems. d years now, and my main reason for wanting to go with their managed shared= service is to let someone else deal with mail. But I also have a couple of= friends who need mail and some static page serving, and if they can do tha= t for a =E2=82=AC or two per month per domain, they'll be overjoyed. Having= a solution I can point people to where I don't do any of the management: g= ood. 15 mins thanks to Ansible. wrote: to deploy containers on Hetzner? and usable by regular folks. Hosting is a critical issue. iner. It's freaking awesome! Part of what's cool about it is the ability to= have multiple stacks running totally separately on the same host. (I'm sur= e I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.) ital Ocean, it would be great to have lower cost hosting. Have you looked a= t containers? Is that possible/practical? who want cheap hosting, so I decided to throw down a couple of bucks and tr= y out Hetzner's shared server product, to put my stuff that's largely stati= c on that service, and see if they can deal with my email and whatnot. nc to access it. I have pushed one of those sites up there via sftp with "p= ut -r", but it seems awfully wasteful to push the whole damned site up agai= n every time. verything in that check file and then touch the check file, but... anyone h= ave a favorite sftp client that gets sync right? I should know? I'd love to push portions of my social media posting/rss/dat= abase thingie up there, but don't know where they are on Perl vs PHP vs wha= tever, what packages they have installed, all of that stuff that I'll have = to figure out. --=20 Lee Walker Principal Engineer 404-405-1194 l.s.walker (Skype) www.codejourneymen.com Code Journeymen LLC 1028 Signal Mountain Road Suite #103, Chattanooga TN, 37405
=============================================================== From: Michael Harrison via chugalug ------------------------------------------------------ Digital Ocean is awesome. They earn their $$$, good systems and keep a "clean" network. My only complaint is they don't (normally) allow mail servers...oh.. yeah. part of a clean network, keep the spam/scum away. Not sure what you are buying, but you get a lot of server for under $20/mth on the low end and great service.
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