RE: CentOS shifting to CentOS Stream
2020-12-12 by: don@coastlandtech.com
From: don@coastlandtech.com ------------------------------------------------------ Rocky Linux looks like the way am leaning now..=20 But it=E2=80=99s still vapor ware =E2=80=A6. Dr.D =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Bret McHone =20 Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 12:10 PM To: don@coastlandtech.com Subject: Re: [chugalug] CentOS shifting to CentOS Stream =20 My employer is a pretty heavy CentOS shop so they are looking at it very = closely. I don't think from the current discussions going on that most = are in favor of Stream and would probably look to Rocky Linux.=20 =20 It's reminiscent of Oracle's move with Java.=20 =20 -B =20 On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:45 AM David White wrote: Several of you have probably already read the announcement. Earlier this week, CentOS announced that they are shifting the focus of = the project entirely over to CentOS Stream. In effect, that means that = CentOS as we know it is going away. =20 See https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ for the = full announcement. =20 Frankly, I'm surprised that no one has brought it up on this distro list = yet. :) I might ramble a little bit here. There's been a pretty lively = discussion going on in a different mailing list I'm a part of, so I'll = post here an edited version of what I posted over there while trying to = still make some sense.=20 =20 I'm interested in you all's take. =20 Here is a post that I read which is in favor of Red Hat switching to = Stream. https://jperrin.org/blog/thoughts-on-stream/ =20 And here is a post I read which is not in favor of the switch: https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/centos-linux-8-will-end-in-2021-and-= shifts-focus-to-centos-stream/ =20 I follow Cyberctl on Twitter, and there was / is a pretty interesting = discussion going on (which I was slightly a part of), on the topic: https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1336348208184741888 =20 My perspective: I really think Red Hat / IBM is shooting themselves in the foot. I would = likely move my stuff (that is not already off of CentOS). On a side = tangent, this is slightly frustrating for me, because I've spent a lot = of time recently studying for the RHCSA exam, and I hope to take it in = January. I feel like all of the Red Hat exams will be devalued, if there = is indeed the mass exodus that I'm sort of expecting to see at this = point.=20 =20 I've personally been very frustrated with how slow it takes Red Hat to = patch some CVEs. I've also experienced (at least one) customer who = failed PCI compliance audits, and I confirmed that there were CVEs that = were years old that Red Hat just didn't patch, and didn't care about. As = soon as I switched that customer to the latest version of Ubuntu with = some crafty `ufw` firewall rules for ssh, the PCI audit passed.=20 =20 This looks interesting: https://rockylinux.org/ It was spun off within days of the announcement, and one of the original = CentOS co-founders is helping to head up this new Rocky Linux project. =20 --=20 David White