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IBM buying RedHat. .

2018-10-29 by: Jonathan Calloway
From: Jonathan Calloway 
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This is interesting:

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Lynn - looks like you=E2=80=99ll have new bosses soon. .=20





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=============================================================== From: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" ------------------------------------------------------ At first I didn't know what to say, but I think of all the companies that could acquire Red Hat, IBM seems the most logical choice. Especially if they keep the Red Hat division operating. -Alex Smith, Server+, Network+ " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we=E2=80=99re al= l damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area) [image: Mailtrack] Sender notified by Mailtrack 10/28/18, 4:57:55 PM

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah, we got the news earlier today. Supposedly IBM is going to let Red Hat be a separate entity and not influence our culture, but that yet remains to be seen.

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ =46rom what I read, you get to keep your brand, structures, dev = philosophy etc. =20 Red Hat be a separate entity and not influence our culture, but that yet = remains to be seen. = wrote:

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ I got the news around 2:30p, and my phone has been blowing up since. There=E2=80=99s four things I take away from all this: 1) IBM placed an =E2=80=9Call in=E2=80=9D bet on this. Their annual revenue i= s $80bn. They invested $34bn to buy us. They had to take out a loan in order= to execute. Now they=E2=80=99re on the hook to investors to make good on th= at loan. 2) because of (1), it=E2=80=99s in their best interest to keep us separate. I= t=E2=80=99s also in the industry=E2=80=99s best interest, because RH must re= main a neutral open source company. We have a lot of partners that ARENT IBM= . We still need to work with them. 3) As long as we keep to our targets and goals, which we were going to do be= fore this anyways, there=E2=80=99s no reason for IBM to muck with =E2=80=9Cw= hat works.=E2=80=9D They need us to be relevant in this new world. However, i= n order to grow like we want, we need the relationships and infrastructure t= hat a company like IBM has built. 4) IBM contributed a lot to open source over the years. They invested a bill= ion in 2001 for Linux development on x86. In 2013, they invested another bil= lion for Linux on Power. And yesterday, $34bn in us, Red Hat. If you look at= the top 10 contributing companies for opensource in pretty much any mainstr= eam product, IBM is there. IBM, while in a lot of ways stuck in the 1970s, i= s a big proponent of OSS. How many companies do you work for that use OSS th= at also contribute back to the community via publishing their code and bugfi= xes? How many vendors are you using that do the same? So, I look at this as a good thing. Sure, it=E2=80=99s a surprise. Sure it=E2= =80=99s scary. But, we have to grow. It=E2=80=99ll be the same Red Hat for t= he next 18-24 months. Might even be a better one as this will probably open m= ore doors for us, allow us to have bigger and higher level conversations wit= h customers, and actually hold more sway in negotiating terms for integratio= n and partnerships with other vendors and SI=E2=80=99s. --b at be a separate entity and not influence our culture, but that yet remains t= o be seen.

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ Billy, I appreciate your response on this. I=E2=80=99m a little non-pulsed with th= e coverage of this on all the tech sites, claiming that IBM did this as a la= st ditch effort to keep themselves afloat, or to make them relevant (after a= ll, they still make mainframes!). I think the tech press doesn=E2=80=99t re= alize that the back-ends of all of their favorite start-ups, apps and buz-te= ch is Linux, RH, and yes, IBM. IBM has been committed to UNIX and Linux for decades. While they are not te= chnically completely =E2=80=9Cfree=E2=80=9D as in Stallman, their contributi= ons cannot be ignored. They introduced IBM Linux, and now they have even bu= ilt an entire mainframe hardware structured around Linux called LinuxONE. I= think that this deal not only diversifies their product offerings, but give= s even more legitimacy to Linux and its use in the enterprise space.=20 Just my 2 cents. . . Sent from my iPad e is $80bn. They invested $34bn to buy us. They had to take out a loan in or= der to execute. Now they=E2=80=99re on the hook to investors to make good on= that loan. . It=E2=80=99s also in the industry=E2=80=99s best interest, because RH must= remain a neutral open source company. We have a lot of partners that ARENT I= BM. We still need to work with them. efore this anyways, there=E2=80=99s no reason for IBM to muck with =E2=80=9C= what works.=E2=80=9D They need us to be relevant in this new world. However,= in order to grow like we want, we need the relationships and infrastructure= that a company like IBM has built. llion in 2001 for Linux development on x86. In 2013, they invested another b= illion for Linux on Power. And yesterday, $34bn in us, Red Hat. If you look a= t the top 10 contributing companies for opensource in pretty much any mainst= ream product, IBM is there. IBM, while in a lot of ways stuck in the 1970s, i= s a big proponent of OSS. How many companies do you work for that use OSS th= at also contribute back to the community via publishing their code and bugfi= xes? How many vendors are you using that do the same? =E2=80=99s scary. But, we have to grow. It=E2=80=99ll be the same Red Hat fo= r the next 18-24 months. Might even be a better one as this will probably op= en more doors for us, allow us to have bigger and higher level conversations= with customers, and actually hold more sway in negotiating terms for integr= ation and partnerships with other vendors and SI=E2=80=99s. at be a separate entity and not influence our culture, but that yet remains t= o be seen.

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ will they rename it Blue Hat ? ________________________________ From: Chugalug on behalf of Jonathan Callow= ay Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:55 PM To: CHUGALUG Subject: [Chugalug] IBM buying RedHat. . This is interesting: https://lwn.net/Articles/769762/rss Lynn - looks like you=92ll have new bosses soon. . X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KQ2h1Z2FsdWcg bWFpbGluZyBsaXN0CkNodWdhbHVnQGNodWdhbHVnLm9yZwpodHRwOi8vY2h1Z2FsdWcub3JnL2Nn aS1iaW4vbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9jaHVnYWx1Zwo=

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ No. Lol. But an interesting tidbit. Ginni Rometty wore purple to our internal Q&A. Th= ough, we joked about it during the call and on the stage, I don=E2=80=99t th= ink she did it on purpose. It was funny though when pointed out.=20 --b way

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ You guys will be running Lotus Notes in no time! =99t think

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ And, your entire site infrastructure for RedHat.com will be switched over to= WebSphere! Sent from my iPad Though, we joked about it during the call and on the stage, I don=E2=80=99t= think she did it on purpose. loway

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ You laugh, but you have NO IDEA of the controversy when we switched email to= google mail from Zimbra. And talking to other IBMers that went through mergers, they=E2=80=99re using= outlook. And there=E2=80=99s also the real possibility we=E2=80=99ll keep o= ur existing google suite based on whatever contractual terms that were signe= d. Like I mentioned. 18-24 months before I have to think about it. Also, a lot of ibm people use thinkpads, obviously, but also Macs. So the fu= ture doesn=E2=80=99t look too bleak in that regard. --b Though, we joked about it during the call and on the stage, I don=E2=80=99t= think she did it on purpose. loway

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ Now, that=E2=80=99s just mean! *shudders* --b o WebSphere! . Though, we joked about it during the call and on the stage, I don=E2=80=99= t think she did it on purpose. lloway

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ It seems that I recall an article a couple of years ago that said that new e= mployees at IBM get a ThinkPad or a Mac, and like 75%+ have chosen Macs; so t= hey are Apple=E2=80=99s Business Unit=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98cash cow=E2=80=99 .= . .=20 Sent from my iPad to WebSphere! A. Though, we joked about it during the call and on the stage, I don=E2=80=99= t think she did it on purpose. alloway

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ When NetApp acquired Solidfire, there was a promise of keeping the culture in tact. The first thing they did was kick us off Gmail for Outlook. At least we got to keep Google Docs. -Eric -=3D--=3D---=3D----=3D----=3D---=3D--=3D-=3D--=3D---=3D----=3D---=3D--=3D-= =3D- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 w =80=99 . . . . =99t think

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ If you guys get a *real* IBM Thinkpad, please send photos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9A9GBTFrFTQ *- Chad W. Smith* w =80=99 . . . . =99t think

=============================================================== From: Billy ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah. That=E2=80=99s a real possibility. As long as it=E2=80=99s not lotus n= otes or zimbra- and I don=E2=80=99t have to manage the exchange server... --b in tact. The first thing they did was kick us off Gmail for Outlook. At lea= st we got to keep Google Docs. =3D- w employees at IBM get a ThinkPad or a Mac, and like 75%+ have chosen Macs; s= o they are Apple=E2=80=99s Business Unit=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98cash cow=E2=80=99= . . .=20 er to WebSphere! &A. Though, we joked about it during the call and on the stage, I don=E2=80=99= t think she did it on purpose. Calloway