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2018-03-05 by: Dan Lyke
From: Dan Lyke 
Okay, the various cameras are starting to come in, I need to learn a
little bit more about the different grades of network cable to see if
I'll save long-term maintenance time by spending a little more for
stuff to run outside the house (it's easy to get through the walls up
in the attic, I'd rather staple cable along side the trim than open up
wallboard to get things down to human head-height: My security cameras
are going to take pictures of people head-on, not hat down).

Anyway, I'll write some reviews as I get those hooked up, but: My 7
year old laptop is starting to show its age. Sometimes the trackpad
stops working, and then randomly starts again, and then yesterday while
I was waiting for my car to get worked on it locked up and didn't
recognize the SSD when I tried to reboot. And then later it did.

So it's time. I'm partial to ASUS 'cause this beast has stuck with me,
and because a new keyboard is $25 and a paperclip to change it out.

But I'd like something with an (*&^% load of RAM, 16G minimum, 32G
preferred. I like some of the refurbs I saw on Amazon that had two
drives, an SSD and a big spinny one, but they only came in 17"+, and I
want 14-15" so I can use it on the bus.

Linux as the primary OS. I'd prefer robust display over touchscreen; I
don't want glass that'll crack if you look at it wrong. Probably AMD as
the processor, 'cause I don't want the Meltdown patches to totally
destroy performance.

If it has graphics chops, I'm more interested in how they'll be for
OpenCV or TensorFlow than for gaming performance.

How do y'all laptop shop?


=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ Dell Precision or HP Elitebook. Fully Linux compatible (Drivers are fully provided by both), extremely expandable, and fairly affordable. You can get a refurbed Precision off of Dell's website for around $600-$700, and Dell includes an Owner's Manual that enables you to fully teardown the laptop yourself if needed. Parts are easy to come by, and upgrades an option.

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ Lenovo's are the standard issue laptop at Red Hat, and we provide them with RHEL7 :-) Most of us end up running Fedora on them though. The P50 is absolute beast of a machine if you want a "mobile workstation". The T470 and T470S are a little more portable but are still very nice. Both of these are completely user serviceable with easily replaceable keyboards, upgradable memory and such. The P50 has extra slots for BOTH an additional stick of NVMe drive AND a 2.5" sata drive. Even better: The NVMe drives can be configured in RAID....on a laptop! Both machines are docking station capable as well. My company upgrade is coming up in about 2 months and I am going to be requesting the P50. Here's some decent video reviews on both: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84G2s1kPW4s Dell Precision or HP Elitebook. Fully Linux compatible (Drivers are fully

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ My last two laptops have been Asus. I like their aluminum clamshell design. The trackpad attempts to mimic the MacBook trackpad but falls short. Does AMD make a decent laptop CPU? To be honest, I haven't looked. -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ Not yet, rumors abound about an AMD based mobile workstation, but I've yet to see any real delivery.

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ Asus has no AMD-based ZenBooks. They have three models with AMD processors but only a 1920x1080 max display resolution. Dell doesn't seem to be any better. Doesn't anyone sell an AMD Laptop with a higher resolution display? -Eric -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Stephen Kraus wrote:

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:05:38 -0700 Eric Wolf wrote: I see an Asus Ultrabook that'll need an additional USB-C adaptor, but has 16G of RAM, a 1TB SSD and a 7th gen i7 for $1,100. Trying to figure out if 16G is enough RAM. It appears not. Sigh. Dan

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ Screw it: Got sick of shopping, bought a refurb ASUS Zenbook 7th Gen i7 with 16G of RAM and a 512G SSD. And a USB-C docking station. Seems like as much as 32G of RAM is nice, I'm actually using 3-4G of RAM normally. I liked the idea of going back to the small form-factor, especially for my bus rides to and from work, may have to find a place to mount another monitor (work has some spare monitors if I need more display). Dan

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ I have the UX330 Zenbook 7th Gen i5 with 8G RAM and 256G SSD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M18UZF5 My complaints, in order are: 1. Screen resolution is disappointing. It's hard, for instance, to have my Google Spreadsheet with my checking register open along side my bank's website. And be readable to my now deteriorating eyes. I am typing this on my current-generation MacBook Pro with Retina display. It's a 15.6" display, so it has more physical screen real estate but it also is legible with small print. 2. The touchpad is good but it's not Apple good. The Apple is good enough that I never feel like I need a mouse. The Asus not so much. 3. The UX330 has a separate power connector (from the USB C) and uses a proprietary power brick. And Asus, for some godforsaken reason, has been making power bricks with the prongs spaced oddly, so you can't pug the brick into a standard wall socket and use the second outlet. But the battery lasts long enough that I charge it about once a week or so. -Eric -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734

=============================================================== From: DaWorm ------------------------------------------------------ workstation". I have the P50. It's a beast, but heavy. Jeff

=============================================================== From: Sean Brewer ------------------------------------------------------ Sweet. I'm due for an upgrade and this is good to hear. I'm running a now maxed out T430 and like to stick with Lenovos, since I'm pretty rough on laptops.