Ubuntu Desktop

From: David White 
------------------------------------------------------
Has anyone seen a decline in the quality and reliability of Ubuntu in the
past few releases? I loved it for a long time and used 12.04 for a long
time. I ended up somehow screwing up that install, corrupting the OS, and
didn't take the time to repair it for a long time (just running off Windows
for my day-to-day desktop stuff).

Then as soon as I installed 12.14, it crashed numerous times within a short
while, so I just gave up on it and went back to Windows.

Tonight, I just installed 13.04, and not more than 20 minutes later it
crashed again.

If it crashes 1 more time, then I'm dumping Ubuntu once and for all, and
I'm moving on to something else. I've never been a fan of Ubuntu on servers
(but used to be a big fan of Ubuntu for desktops until I started having all
these issues).

I have no use for it if it can't run reliably on a standard 64-bit Intel
(Asus).

That said, if I decide to drop Ubuntu, what do you guys like to run as your
OS for desktop day-to-day computing?

Let the Distro Wars begin...

-- 
David White
Founder & CEO
*
*
*CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Nonprofit Organizations Worldwide
http://developCENTS.com 
423-693-4234

Android+Linux rant

From: Phil Sieg 
------------------------------------------------------
So I am warming up to my Galaxy Note 2 quite a bit.

I wanted to transfer some video files from my Ubuntu server in the basement, to avoid some of the boredom while shopping this afternoon.  I grab a usb sync cord and my phone and go plug it up to my Ubuntu 12.04 Server.

Imagine my surprise/disappointment/frustration/chagrin when I plug it up and it mounts up a couple of useless av/player icons that will not allow me to just drag and drop my damned .avi files into my SD card. Why would I expect it to work that way? Well because on my Mac's and on my PC's that is exactly what I do, and it is in my mind one of the single greatest advantages over iOS... the ability to drag and drom ANY type of file into my phones storage without frakin around with/thru iTunes or some 3rd party widget.

Yes I googled HOW to fix this GLARING omission in uBuntu, I simply can't get my brain wrapped around HOW/WHY two LINUX devices won't interact as nicely as plugging up to a NON-LINUX device.

Never tried plugging an iPhone up to my Ubuntu box... bet it just "works"

Sheesh, for Christ's sake Canonical, how about tending to some really simple shit like this? Or do I have to wait for the "never gonna ship" Ubuntu Phone?
 
Phil Sieg
President
SeniorTech LLC / Snapfon
www.snapfon.com

B: 423.535.9968
F: 423.265.9820
M: 423.331.0725
phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com



Linux Fun and Power Saving

From: Stephen Haywood 
------------------------------------------------------
Does building a web app on Ubuntu using web.py and Redis count? How about
fixing an OpenVAS XML parsing bug in Metasploit using Kali Linux and the
OpenVAS appliance?

Stephen Haywood
Owner, ASG Consulting
CISSP, GSEC, OSCP
W: www.averagesecurityguy.info
T: @averagesecguy

On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:06 PM, William Wade  wrote:

On topic woot! I was just going to talk about what I just finished setting
up. Mostly because I hope it will give others ideas and encourage you to
get crazy and make something.

Thanks to Aaron, I got a Pogoplug at the last swap meet. Now I like to have
a home computer that I can log into via ssh to get to files and what not
that I need. Also I like to have a web server for testing as well as
sending large files.

So I have had my main desktop running 24/7. This worked fine but the amount
of power it uses is more than I would like.

I setup Arch Linux on the pogo plug and setup apache and a few other
servers. I did not have and extra usb hard drive that could hold my data
that I needed access to from time to time.

So I setup wake on lan on the desktop and a script with the MAC address on
the Pogoplug.
Now I can ssh into the Pogoplug, wake up the desktop and ssh over to it.

Nothing amazing, but I think the power saving is nice. And all possible
through Linux and open source.

What fun little projects has everyone else been doing with Linux recently?


mixx and impress

From: gary hasty 
------------------------------------------------------
Ok, here's a strange little thing I'm trying to figure out.  Will have my
ubuntu notebook running a media event showing a presentation with imbedded
video via a projector and also need Mixx running on my notebook screen for
some music mixing.  Looks like if I'm running mixx in Auto DJ mode on one
screen the video stops displaying via the projector.  The slideshow still
works just no video or audio imbedded.  Some strange config I haven't found
yet?  If I quit Mixx, all works in impress

.htaccess -- SOLVED

From: rdflowers 
------------------------------------------------------
A call to hostgator helped me to realize the .htaccess file needed to  
be IN the doc root, not just above it.

THANKS, EVERYONE !


----- Message from seabre986@gmail.com ---------
     Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:28:08 -0400
     From: Sean Brewer 
Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group  

  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] .htaccess
       To: rd@chatta.us, CHUGALUG 


> Also, like Joshua said. Make sure you have mod

Bodhi Fail

From: Nick Smith 
------------------------------------------------------
I was going to give Bodhi a shot because i really love enlightenment but
could never get it installed.

Ive tried every combination i could think of on the install boot menu,
disabled all i could in the bios, turned boot mode to legacy, etc.

Kept hanging at "Preparing to install Bodhi...." would just get an hour
glass and no disk activity.
Also tried installing from bootable usb stick instead of cd, same result.

I popped in a 12.10 ubuntu cd and installed flawlessly.
Seems odd that Bodhi being based on ubuntu doesnt work for me.

Too bad there is no text based installer. I would really like to use Bodhi.

Im using an IBM ThinkCentre PC (4480-B1U)

Couldnt really find anything on google with my exact problem with any kind
of decent fix.
From what i saw the people having this problem were using a usb cdrom,
which is not the case for me.

Anyone run into anything like this before?

-- 
--------------
Nick Smith
nick at nicksmith dot us

Mac Pro Running Linux - Lacking some keys..

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------

Been on a road trip for two days. Light computer usage so I tried to take 
a Mac Pro that can dual-boot into Linux (Bodhi/Ubuntu) and use it.

I found myself really missing: Page Up / Page Down and Print Screen.

Print Screen especially as I needed some screen captures.

Are there sane work arounds? Magic key cominations?
Or has Apple just decided we don't need those keys any more?



Linux volunteer opportunity

From: Luke Prince 
------------------------------------------------------
I love the idea of a Raspberry Pi kiosk and would happily volunteer some
time to help set it up on that platform. I have always wanted to play with
one, and this could be the perfect opportunity!

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> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station)
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> The usual way to run a kiosk-station is to configure a user-name (often
> password-free, often always-logged-on by default) which runs the kiosk
> application directly as its "shell."  Thus, when that user logs-on, the
> kiosk is running; when the kiosk program ends for any reason, the user is
> now by definition logged-off.  Or, if you want a GUI, select a
> window-manager such as Matchbox which is designed for this purpose.
>
>
> http://serverfault.com/questions/59329/im-looking-for-secure-linux-kiosk-software
>
> http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/intro.htm
>
> http://www.engineering.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Linux/LinuxKiosk
>
> http://www.flatcoder.co.uk/how-to-build-a-secure-kiosk-operating-system/
>
>
> ---------
> Mike Robinson
> Technical Director
> Sundial Services International, LLC
> http://www.sundialservices.com
> miker@sundialservices.com
> (615) 268-3829
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-robinson/51/532/5a
>
> >
> > I'm not a guru but, I think some kind of kiosk would not be out of my
> reach.
> >
> > Maybe Lubuntu with Firefox in kiosk mode?
> >
> > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/r-kiosk/
> >
> >
> > On 04/01/2013 11:58 AM, Nate Hill wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library,
> >> with thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now have
> >> 4 formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu.  The plan
> >> is to have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is going
> >> away (lame) so we'll use something else.  Obviously we can do a lot
> >> more than just this with these machines.
> >>
> >> I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups that
> >> allow people to schedule reservations of computers.  We don't yet have
> >> the demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we
> >> expand hours and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into
> >> a public computer lab running all open source goodies.
> >>
> >> I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup
> >> station'.  Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot?
> >> We'd love to have you.
> >>
> >> Nate
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nate Hill
> >> nathanielhill@gmail.com 
> >> http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
> >> http://www.natehill.net
> >>
>
>
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> To: chugalug@chugalug.org
> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station)
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> Thanks for the links.
>
> Some suggest running the whole thing off a flash drive.
>
> It could probably all be done on a Raspberry Pi.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:01:21 -0400
> From: Dan Eveland 
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
>         
> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Intro to Python class at the library
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>
> I am Nate's web guy. I have now made it much more obvious when registering
> to show if you are on the wait-list. It was way too subtle with small text.
> Basically anyone who registered after 7:30PM on April 1st is on the wait
> list. I see Michael Scholten in the class and Lynn Dixson on the wait list.
> Feel free to email me directly if you would like me to check.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Michael Scholten  >wrote:
>
> > Thanks Nate
> > On Apr 2, 2013 7:47 PM, "Nate Hill"  wrote:
> >
> >> Hey
> >> I will follow up with my web guy and see what's up with registered folk
> >> vs wait list folk
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, April 2, 2013, Lynn Dixon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael
> >>> I didn't get any response other than the confirmation on the webpage.
> >>> Hopefully we were able to get in the class!
> >>> On Apr 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Michael Scholten" 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> (in late response to you Lynn...) I signed up. Pretty certain I am in
> >>>> the first 25 as there were still 2 slots open after I put my name in
> >>>> although I can't be sure. Should we/I have gotten any sort of
> confirmation
> >>>> Nate? Email or otherwise?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM, rdflowers  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Simple interactions with a database, examples of actual code that are
> >>>>> fairly simple, BUT are beyond the "Hello, World" stage,
> python.orgmailing lists, getting new modules from
> >>>>> python.org or elsewhere, hashes, sets, multisets, tips and tricks;
> >>>>> or, some non-crowded subset of all that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Message from stephen@averagesecurityguy.**info ---------
> >>>>>     Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:16:25 -0400
> >>>>>     From: Stephen Haywood 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group  >>>>> chugalug@chugalug.org>
> >>>>>  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Intro to Python class at the library
> >>>>>       To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group  >>>>> chugalug@chugalug.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  What specific things would you expect a 102 course to cover?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stephen Haywood
> >>>>>> Owner, ASG Consulting
> >>>>>> CISSP, GSEC, OSCP
> >>>>>> T: @averagesecguy
> >>>>>> W: averagesecurityguy.info
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- End message from stephen@averagesecurityguy.**info -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA
> >>>>> http://chalice.us/poe/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 

Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station)

From: Mike Robinson 
------------------------------------------------------
The usual way to run a kiosk-station is to configure a user-name (often =
password-free, often always-logged-on by default) which runs the kiosk =
application directly as its "shell."  Thus, when that user logs-on, the =
kiosk is running; when the kiosk program ends for any reason, the user =
is now by definition logged-off.  Or, if you want a GUI, select a =
window-manager such as Matchbox which is designed for this purpose.

=
http://serverfault.com/questions/59329/im-looking-for-secure-linux-kiosk-s=
oftware

http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/intro.htm

http://www.engineering.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Linux/LinuxKiosk

http://www.flatcoder.co.uk/how-to-build-a-secure-kiosk-operating-system/


---------
Mike Robinson
Technical Director
Sundial Services International, LLC
http://www.sundialservices.com
miker@sundialservices.com
(615) 268-3829
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-robinson/51/532/5a

>=20
> I'm not a guru but, I think some kind of kiosk would not be out of my =
reach.
>=20
> Maybe Lubuntu with Firefox in kiosk mode?
>=20
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/r-kiosk/
>=20
>=20
> On 04/01/2013 11:58 AM, Nate Hill wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>=20
>> As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library,=20
>> with thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now =
have=20
>> 4 formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu.  The plan=20=

>> is to have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is =
going=20
>> away (lame) so we'll use something else.  Obviously we can do a lot=20=

>> more than just this with these machines.
>>=20
>> I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups =
that=20
>> allow people to schedule reservations of computers.  We don't yet =
have=20
>> the demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we=20
>> expand hours and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into=20=

>> a public computer lab running all open source goodies.
>>=20
>> I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup=20
>> station'.  Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot?=20=

>> We'd love to have you.
>>=20
>> Nate
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Nate Hill
>> nathanielhill@gmail.com 
>> http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
>> http://www.natehill.net
>>=20











Linux volunteer opportunity at the library

From: Nate Hill 
------------------------------------------------------
Hi all,

As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library, with
thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now have 4
formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu.  The plan is to
have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is going away
(lame) so we'll use something else.  Obviously we can do a lot more than
just this with these machines.

I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups that
allow people to schedule reservations of computers.  We don't yet have the
demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we expand hours
and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into a public computer
lab running all open source goodies.

I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup station'.
 Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot?  We'd love to
have you.

Nate


-- 
Nate Hill
nathanielhill@gmail.com
http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
http://www.natehill.net

LAMP problem

From: Garrett Gaston 
------------------------------------------------------
I'M trying to learn a little php but my learning as been halted by some str=
ange behavior when executing my html/php files. Within my html documents I =
am attaching them to php files via:=20



When the html file executes the form=2C the browser downloads the somefile.=
php file as if I were a picture or song I was downloading from a website ra=
ther than executing and displaying the php page in the browser. Executing p=
hpinfo() from the browser via 'localhost/phptest.php' is working just fine.=
 This problem is only occurring when a php script is called to be executed =
from an html file within the browser. Also note that I have tried this in t=
wo browsers with the same result.

I've removed php5 and apache2 and re-installed both of them and I'M still g=
etting the same result.

Here's the info from /var/log/apache2/error.log

[Thu Feb 28 12:45:35 2013] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubun=
tu3.5 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations

Any ideas. I've hit a brick wall here and I can't continue my php book unti=
l I get this resolved.
 		 	   		  =

no acceptable c compiler

From: Garrett Gaston 
------------------------------------------------------
I tried to run ./configure on a small program that the Linux book I'M =0A=
reading instructed me to download and I got the error "no acceptable C =0A=
compiler found in $PATH" I then tried to run apt-get install gcc=2C but =0A=
then I got "unable to locate package gcc".  After running apt-get install g=
cc-4.6-base I got "gcc-4.6-base is already the newest version.".
This is Ubuntu server and the $PATH is:

/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games

Any ideas?
 		 	   		  =

Introducing Myself

From: Tim Moreland 
------------------------------------------------------
Hello Chugalugans,

My name is Tim and I've a fairly recent transplant from Memphis (less than
3 years ago). I run Ubuntu on my desktop at home and have a Windows /
Ubuntu dual boot setup on one of my computers at work. I'm pretty new to
linux but am always looking to learn more. I guess the other thing that may
be of interest to this group is my involvement with a local civic hacking
group called Open Chattanooga. If you are interested in hearing more about
our work check out the links below and join our Google Group. Take care.

Website: http://openchattanooga.com/

Facebook: http://facebook.com/OpenChattanooga
Twitter: https://twitter.com/openchattanooga
Google Group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/openchattanooga

-- 
Tim Moreland
www.aplannersguide.com

Bodhi Linux updated

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------

BodhiLinux.com  - My Bodhi Linux systems have recently been updated
(apt-get upgrade.. nothing major) and the latest stable Enlightenment 
installed.. with a lot of spit and polish added. It was kinda freaky, as I 
had to re-choose my enlightenment preferences on bootup, and was afraid I 
might have lost important things. Not to fear, everything was kewl, 
shinier, glossier, and it seems just a little faster and smoother.
They stuck an app menu (start button) like button on the bar, but it still 
has the dock and the ctrl-alt-m, and click on any desktop menu that 
quickly became ingrained.

I'm running Xubuntu on a netbook now.. and it seems to share some aspects 
of the latest Bodhi/Enlightenment, so I'm liking it as well.

I'm just so happy it's not Ubuntu's Unity. ;)

Just sharing some on-topic thoughts.



============================================================
Mike Harrison   bogon@geeklabs.com  cell: 423.605.6943

Short intro

From: Aric Annear 
------------------------------------------------------
Hello-the welcome message for joining the mailing list said to introduce
myself, so yeah.

 

My name's Aric, I grew up here but moved to Seattle some years ago to work
for Amazon.com, and just moved back recently.  I run Ubuntu on my home
server, and distro hop like mad on my PC.  I'm definitely not a Linux guru
but hoping to be eventually.  I'm one of the maybe 5 people on the planet
that actually really likes GNOME 3.  (Probably shouldn't have said that out
loud.)

 

Anything you'd like to know, feel free to ask.  Glad to be here.

 

Thanks,

 

-Aric


Help building ancient app...

From: DaWorm 
------------------------------------------------------
If this is not appropriate for this list, let me know.

I'm definitely a Linux user, not developer or admin.  So I'm having a bit
of trouble building an ancient (2003) app for doing furniture CAD.

Somewhere a few years back someone managed, by using a set of patches from
a distro called PLD.  Perhaps someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong.

The program is called lignumCAD.  Here's what I've done so far:

Download source rpm (not the tar.gz link!).
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lignumcad/files/lignumCAD/0.2/

Extract source to ~\src

Open terminal, cd ~\src

sudo apt-get install build-essential

sudo apt-get install qt3-apps-dev

sudo apt-get install opencascade4

sudo apt-get install libopencascade-dev

navigate to
http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/cvs/packages/lignumCAD/ and
download all patches
    Click each link, right click on download in "Links to HEAD" and save to
~\src\lignumCAD
(I couldn't get CVS to pull these)

patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc4.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-Xft.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-delete-pointer.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc-enum-warning.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc3.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc34.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc41.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc42.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc43.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-gcc44.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-qt3.patch -- had to apply by hand for some reason
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-ui.patch
patch -p1 < lignumCAD-xft.patch

edit lignumCAD.pro
  find unix:INCLUDEPATH, remove "local" from the paths
  comment out both lines with QMAKE

OT: cool new (old used) Kit

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
So when you showing it off?

Wheezy, Xorg and open box is my suggestion.

----- Original Message -----
> I was perusing ebay to check out values of some geekery I need to
> sell
> and stumbled across something else that i don't need, so of course I
> did
> the right thing and bought it.
> 
> Waaaayyyyy back in 2008 when the MacBook Air was the coolest thing
> ever,
> Nokia made a horrendously expensive Netbook carved out of a block of
> Aluminium. It looks like a tiny Macbook pro and  has built in 3g
> through
> a SIM card slot, and 12 hours of battery life. It also is a fairly
> pokey
> Atom Z530 processor, gma 500 graphics, a 1.8" 4200 rpm sata drive
> that
> is SLLLOOOOOOWWWW, and worst of all 1GB of ram that is soldered to
> the
> mobo with ZERO upgrade possibility.
> 
> The good news is it plays well out of the box with all 12.10 based
> flavors (typing this in Xubuntu). It is fairly snappy and certainly
> quite usable. I ordered a 1.8 SSD off ebay for cheap and hope that it
> will speed things up just enough to where this is a pleasant
> experience
> rather than a bearable one. The battery life is absolutely out of
> this
> world. Next stop is Lubuntu which is supposed to be the lightest
> weight
> of all of the 'buntu's.
> 
> For the final price this may be one of my best finds yet, and it is
> VERRRYYYY Pretty.
> 
> Just passin it on cause they are goin way cheap on the 'bay.  Search
> Nokia Booklet 3g.
> 
> Happy New Year!!!!
> 
> Phil
> 

What is Ubuntu going to announce today at 1pm ET?

From: Lynn Dixon 
------------------------------------------------------
Check out their webpage:

www.ubuntu.com

There is a countdown timer that is slated to end at 1pm ET today.  I am
speculating some sort of Ubuntu branded touch / tablet device.

Whats your speculation?

debianish based hosting or local colo

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
I'm getting ready to start a few projects to get my name ought there.
and I want to handle more of the  under the hood stuff.
And since I'm a padawan of the  debian  side of the force, they will mostly be debian/ubuntu type machines.
While I can do a lot from home, anything involving mail servers is blocked on residential.

What are current debian based hosting options or local colo shops?