Laptops with known Linux support

From: Unkmar 
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I'm planning to purchase a few identical laptops with a few minimal
requirements.

1. Everything works on Linux, preferably Debian.  My arm can be twisted to
allow Ughbuntu.
2. Dual boot.  I need Windows to be on these systems, whether I like it or
not.  The end users will need it.
3. $300-$600.  Clearly the lower number is preferable. Yet..
4. Intel CPU.  As close to i7 as possible.
5. Not Lenovo.  Last I knew, those guys still whitelist their WiFi cards
and I strongly disagree with any form of lock-in.

Well, I guess that covers it.  Obviously more memory is better.  Anything
over 2Gb should be fine.  I'm hoping for 4Gb to 8Gb.

Honestly, drive size and type just doesn't matter much to me.  SSD or Not.
Sure, they boot amazingly fast.  Just not a deal maker either way.   And I
haven't really out grown storage in years unless I horde loads of junk I
don't use anyway.

I'm asking for you help because some of you may have already successfully
done the research. I've looked around and just get frustrated from the
prices jumping around a grand any time I get comfortable with the
specifications.  I'm trying to settle for less and having a hard time
finding anything *NEW* in desired price range.  New is not really the
requirement.  Identical laptops fully supporting Linux and Legal copies of
Windows 7 or higher.  (Identical !!!)

Thanks in advance.
Lucius L. Hilley III

PS: Help me provide a great late X-mas/Birthdary present for a few kids.

Possibly falling under Daemonic influence

From: Rod-Lists 
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Been looking OS's that are not going to Systemd.
On the linux side it seems gentoo and Slack are not(started with Slack in the 90's)

But BSD seems to very safe at the moment.
So Beastie Boys make your pitch why do you like BSD?
What things an ex debian user will need to get used to?

Disabling IRQ #16

From: James Nylen 
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I just got this message in the console, and this in /var/log/messages, and
now there are lots of dropped keypresses and mouse movements.  Anyone know
what may have happened?

Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381755] CPU: 1 PID: 28435 Comm:
firefox Tainted: G           O 3.11-2-amd64 #1 Debian 3.11.8-1
Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381757] Hardware name: System
manufacturer System Product Name/M4A78 PLUS, BIOS 1214    09/14/2009
Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381759]  ffff880226fdf4bc
ffffffff81474a72 ffff880226fdf400 ffffffff810d4ea8
Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381763]  ffff880226fdf400
0000000000000010 0000000000000000 ffffffff810d52ba
Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381765]  0000000000000000
0000000000000000 0000000000000010 0000000000000000
Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381767] Call Trace:
Feb  7 00:46:40 computron kernel: [922030.381769]  
[] ? dump

GLIBC Vuln GHOST Vulnerability # CVE-2015-0235

From: Mike Harrison 
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http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/01/27/9

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/cve-2015-0235-patch-ghost-on-debian-ubuntu-fedora-centos-rhel-linux/

Another fun one. Hits a lot of systems and affects multiple programs. 

"During a code audit performed internally at Qualys, we discovered a
buffer overflow in the 

Firewalled at work: Network Security Question

From: Nick LaPorta 
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Hey guys:

Long time lurker, first time poster. (Apologize for the length, longer than
I intended)

While I'm not a super user, as some on this list, I have built a few *nix
boxes/laptops, etc and would certainly classify myself as still a step
under intermediate, but not beginner.

Quick one (hopefully) for you all.  Recently (2 days ago) installed the
latest Debian distro on a Dell D630 - not sure what other details would be
needed here - and am having trouble connecting to the guest wireless
network here at work (Unum). Side note: I've never connected wirelessly. In
an effort to resolve the wireless broadcom driver issue, I needed access to
wget commands via web so I plugged into ethernet and after like 20 seconds,
got a notice that it was strictly forbidden since this wasn't a work asset
and my network activity was cut at that point.

The note I receive is:

"Your device, IP Address xx.xxx.xx.xx has been identified as exhibiting
unusal [sic] network activity by the Unum network security team.

This type of network activity is typically the result of having a virus,
worm, or malware on your device.

Your device is currently isolated from the network until this issue is
resolved.

If this is a personal device it is your responsibility to correct the
issue."


So, are there any settings or things that I might be able to add to
circumvent these issues?  I've already submitted a ticket with the network
security team.

Also, to be clear, I don't intend on breaking any policies or rules over
this.  If it won't work, it won't work.  But, I wanted to give it a fair
chance

Thanks All and love this community!
Nick

Ian Jackson resigns from technical committee

From: Rod-Lists 
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"Ian Jackson resigns from technical committee after measure to slow systemd adoption fails."
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2848584/software/debian-general-resolution-against-systemd-coupling-fails-sponsor-steps-down.html

Debian has had causulties on both sides of the systemd fight.

Systemd: Harbinger of the Linux apocalypse

From: Rod-Lists 
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Also a long time developer of Debian stepped down. Something does need to done about tone of community these days.
It wasn't always this angry.

But this does worry me.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2608798/data-center/systemd--harbinger-of-the-linux-apocalypse.html

Salting my scripts with PV

From: Rod-Lists 
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I've discovered pv (Pipe Viewer) a few weeks ago. Have begun salting my scripts with it and trying various options.
http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml
It is in Debian or at least Ubuntu repos.
This plus the -P or --progress flag on rsync make life a lot less mysterious in the shell.

Intel NUC

From: Lisa Ridley 
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Anyone here have any hands on experience with these little computers?  I'm looking for an addition to my office for the following:

1.  Persistent Jenkins Server to manage auto deployments and automated testing on a variety of virtual servers (Debian 7, Jenkins, using 2G RAM)
2.  Test Servers for client projects (managed by the Jenkins Server) -- VirtualBox servers managed using Jenkins and Vagrant, running Debian, Ubuntu or CentOS, using 2-4G RAM, configured as a LAMP stack with MySQL and/or MongoDB, running applications written in Symfony2 / Laravel / Drupal.  These servers will be short-lived, and will be used for development, staging and test units, so they will be spun up and down as needed, and will have a lifespan running anywhere from 2 to 6 months.  There will be anywhere from 2 to 6 of these running on one physical unit at any point in time.

The reviews I've read are generally positive, and I like the small footprint and low power consumption.  Looking specifically at one of these units (most likely the 2nd one), configured with 16G RAM, WiFi/BlueTooth and a 120G mSata SSD.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-d54250wykh.html
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-d54250wyk.html

Thoughts?  Experiences?

Lisa Ridley


Should we fork Debian over systemd?

From: Rod-Lists 
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"Who are you?!

We are Veteran Unix Admins and we are concerned about what is happening to Debian GNU/Linux to the point of considering a fork of the project.

And why would you do that?

Some of us are upstream developers, some professional sysadmins: we are all concerned peers interacting with Debian and derivatives on a daily basis.
We don't want to be forced to use systemd in substitution to the traditional UNIX sysvinit init, because systemd betrays the UNIX philosophy.
We contemplate adopting more recent alternatives to sysvinit, but not those undermining the basic design principles of "do one thing and do it well" with a complex collection of dozens of tightly coupled binaries and opaque logs.

Are there better solutions than forking?

Yes: vote Ian Jackson's proposal to preserve freedom of choice of init systems.
Then make sure sysvinit stays the default for now, systemd can be optional.
Debian leaders can go on evaluating more init systems, just not impose one that ignores the needs of most of its users."

read more at
http://debianfork.org/

Android command-line

From: "Robert A. Kelly III" 
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I recently got a new smart phone running CyanogenMod 11 with the
F-Droid repository that I have been playing with. I wonder if anybody
here has played much with doing things from the command line under
Android. Does anyone have suggestions for things like taking pictures
from the camera or getting GPS coordinates from the command line? Has
anyone tried installing a Linux distro like Debian in a chroot on
their Android device? Also, has anyone played with Firefox OS or
Ubuntu Touch, or have any idea how they compare from a hackability
perspective?
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looking for linux ovpn client suggestions

From: Rod-Lists 
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Ok guys imaging a laptop as I write this.  Once files are archive it will be a freash linux install.
Here is your chance to turn a wayward soul away from ubuntu. But I need a rocksolid ovpn client.
I'm considering crunchbang (debian based) so fire away.


Rod

Utility to select fastest Debian repositories

From: Rod-Lists 
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I hear it works in Ubuntu too.
netselect-apt
http://www.debianadmin.com/select-fastest-debian-mirror-using-netselect-apt.html

Email bounce back Help

From: DJ Smith 
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Well everyone, here's my 1st plead for assistance. 

We are running our own email server w/ Iredmail on a Debian box. Everything has been going good up till this 1 bounce back from a client. 

The only error they have sent me is this:
IOException during delivery. class: java.net.UnknownHostException

I have been through all our logs & I can not even see where their server even made or attempted a connection w/ ours. This leads me to believe that there's a middle man that is causing the problem. But it could be our server & I'm just simply overlooking something. 

So, I was hoping that 1 of you may have come across this error somewhere before.

DJ




Sent from my ASUS Pad

Just Testing

From: Mike Harrison 
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On Jul 24, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT)  wrote:

> I think he was trying to invoke Godwin's Law, ending any conversation before they started. ;)


Alex Got It!  

I was also testing the categorization filter on the website. 

Vi/Emacs/Joe/Nano/Pico/Hitler/UFO/Redhat/Ubuntu/Mint/Bodhi/Debian/Android/Jobs/Salaries/EPB/Diesel/Chugalunch/Meeting

Some of those are keywords. 



Question on runlevel philosophy across distros

From: Rod-Lists 
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If I may interupt todays Tn. vs. Ala. arguement, I've noticed different distros use different runlevel philosophies.
http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/8116-an-introduction-to-services-runlevels-and-rcd-scripts
I was wondering if the Debian/Ubuntu Sysadmins ever tighten up their run levels to be more tight like slack or red hat?

Useless and meaningless rant about my hate for Linux Mint...

From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com
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I hate Unity too...
And/or the M$-like bloated KDE. 

Because my long hated (and mostly reliable) Linux Mint went out of support, 
I decided to go with what I hate the least: Xubuntu. 

But I could not burn the DVD, so I installed it on VirtualBox, transferred 
the system to my real box, fixed up the MBR and booted my shinny new 
Xubuntu.
No sound...
Darn... 

After fiddling with it for a day I decided: screw it, I'll go Debian Xfce.
So I got my trusty net-install CD and...
It said that it needed 'proprietary firmware' from Realtek, but WAIT!
It also said that I could install from the 'proprietary firmware DVD'! 

Which (of course) I could not burn either...
So I installed it on VirtualBox, transferred the system to my real box, 
fixed up the MBR and booted my shinny new Debian!  :-)
No sound...
And not second monitor...
Darn...   :( 

After fiddling with it for a day I decided: screw it, Mint worked before, I 
may as well give it a F$%#ING try (I *NEED* a box!)...
Of course I could not burn the DVD!!!!
So I installed it on VirtualBox, transferred the system to my real box, 
fixed up the MBR and booted my shinny new Mint 17 Xfce. 

And now everything works!
But I am hard headed and now I am facing years (I installed LTS) of hating 
MINT!!!! 

Grrrrrrrrr... 

3 wasted days later, and with a fully functional system that I hate, I am 
seriously considering to end it all and hang myself from a pumpkin tree...
I warned you that it was a useless and meaningless rant!
So there...
ET

Home Automation and more

From: Dave Brockman 
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Pretend you are designing your dream home (or perhaps are remodeling
and have all the walls torn down and have to run new electrical
service anyway), what would you put in?

Audio/Video/Network/Automation/Alarm/Security/Camera/Paging

Rack full of Linux servers/VMs goes without saying, so we're on-topic.
:)  I've already decided on multiple CAT-6A pulls through-out the
house.  I have been impressed enough with Unifi that I will be using
their wireless, controlled by a Debian VM.  I know some of you have
some awesome ideas.  Feel free to unicast if you don't want to share
on the public forum, but I would enjoy hearing those ideas.

Regards,

dtb
- -- 
"Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood
unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be
fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking
equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925
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I'm baaaaaaack!

From: Ed King 
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Got bumped off the list back in mid May due to "too many bounces".    Been checking chugalug.org webpage occasionally for any job announcements or hardware sells/freebies ;-)

I stayed unsubbed for awhile (and missed Hack-a-nooga too) because I needed to focus on our latest and biggest client rollout, which went "live" on 6/2/2014.    To "save money" we switched hardware platforms a few weeks before rollout (went from $800 kids-toy netbooks to $300 Dell Venue tablets), but the software platform stayed the same (albeit with some custom mods for the new client):    lamp stack (linux/apache/php/mysql) on qemu.    Why are we running in a vm/emulator?  Well its a long story but a previous 3rd party vendor wrote our field software.  This 3rd party vendor required Windows netbooks.  Their software was slow and flakey (as you'd expect from dot-net) so we ditched them and rewrote the field software in-house (like we wanted to do in the first place, and we did it in less than half the time, and still had more features and flexibility!).    But... we couldn't just throw out twenty $800 netbooks, so we leveraged that hardware "investment"
 by using qemu to run our lampp stack, thinking that it would also be portable if we ever moved to android (does anyone know of a qemu package for android that doesn't SUCK?)

Back-end:   For "security" this client did not want their data on the same server as our other clients, so I set up a new Debian server just for them.  HTTPS and automated sftp file transfers. 

Well now that this new client is up 'n running, I figured it was time for me to re-sub, so...  I'm back.  This new client is our biggest client to-date, and has doubled the amount of inspectors in the field (and doubled the data collection too...  thank goodness we solved that mysql lock problem we used to have).   Things are running smoothly!   I dare say that the support calls have somehow decreased (oh great, now I've jinxed us).    

Props to our little I.T. team:    Danny "dj" Smith Jada "coldfish" Case, and Master Ed :)









If you love SPARC, Debian could use you.

From: Rod 
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http://www.linuxplanet.com/news/linux-top-3-debian-dumps-sparc-ubuntu-takes-over-linux-3.13-and-the-core-infrastructure-initiative.html

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1) Debian Dumps SPARC for Jessie
While x86 has long been a primary server target of Linux, there are many  
other architectures out there too. One of them is Sun/Oracle's SPARC  
platform, which usually is often thought off as being only about Solaris  
Unix.

Debian had been providing support for its Linux distribution running on  
SPARC since March of 1999, but that is now over for new releases. On April  
26, Debian developer Phillip Kern announced that SPARC support had been  
removed from the Debian-testing branch due to a lack porter commitments as  
well as stability issues. Debian testing is the branch that will lead to  
the Jessie release at some point in 2014.
SPARC isn't entirely out of the Debian landscape though.

"The fate of SPARC in unstable has not been decided yet," Kern wrote. "It  
might get removed unless people commit to working on it."



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