MS-Phone... For testing needed

From: Mike Harrison 
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The server side is written in PHP on Linux (On Topic!)

Anyone got a current generation Microsoft OS / Web Browser
phone I can borrow for 5 minutes to see what a web interface
looks like on it? I'll buy coffee, lunch, etc..

Option B: I can pick one up on eBay or elsewhere. I know..

--Mike--

Saturday, June 22 - Meetup / Tech Talk / Swap Meet

From: David White 
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Hey folks,

There was a group of folks who talked for a number of months about
organizing a Chattanooga Technology Conference, but due to several reasons,
we have decided not to pursue that (this year). We will continue to talk
and plan about attempting this in future years.

In the mean time, however, I wanted to propose a Chugalug & Chattanooga IT
Community meetup for one of the days we were hoping to host the conference.

So, I hereby declare myself the President of Chugalug for a meetup on
Saturday, June 22 at the 4th Floor of the Library.

More details to follow, but I was thinking we could it make it a half-day
event, and include:

   - Swap Meet
   - Lightening Talks (two or three different "tracks" where people could
   prepare a 20-30 minute presentation)
      - I'm putting together a workshop for a conference this summer on
      DNS, so for example, I'll plan to do an abbreviated presentation on that
      topic
   - Networking & hanging out
   - Beer or lunch and/or dinner afterwards at some restaurant close by...
   - Any other bright ideas you guys might have

Let me know your thoughts, and let me know if you have a topic you'd like
to present.

If I get enough people who are interested and want to go, I'll set it up as
an event on Meetup.com.

- David

-- 
David White
Founder & CEO
*
*
*CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Nonprofit Organizations Worldwide
http://developCENTS.com 
423-693-4234

Way OT: Sushi

From: Mike Harrison 
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> Is there a buffet with sushi/sashimi around that's actually consistently good?

The lunch buffet at Toto on the N. Shore has been impressive. Nancy and I 
have gone.. and it's well worth the price.. I think tax, tip and all lunch 
cost us about $35 ?

You don't want cheap sushi..

The sushi at the Chinese Garden by Wal Mart (Signal Mtn) was actually 
really good.. but didn't have any fish in what I had, which makes it cheap 
and safer for a place like that.

---------------------------------

On topic: Had a conversation with Terry Parker of Chattanooga College 
(Thanks to Daniel Appleget) in which he mentioned he may soon have a great 
meeting/presentation place available near Eastgate..

Chugalunch: Sofa King Juice Burger ?!?

From: Mike Harrison 
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http://sofakingjuicyburger.com/

I saw this was open for lunch when I drove by a few days ago....

Am heading there for lunch today. Open Invite. Chugalunch. Whatever.

I'll head there about 11:30-ish.

They hooked me at "Beer battered onion rings"

Good Chugalunch at Community Pie

From: Mike Harrison 
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That was a nice Chugalunch. Thanks Rod.. Now where were you?

Topics discussed: Pizza. Drones, UI's, Apache Configs, PHP, Distros
and Nick's Tuxiband style beard. And Gelato.

Chugalunchalicious

From: Aaron welch 
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Anyone down for a Chugalunch?  I need a break from writing
business/disaster/exit plans.  :+/

-AW

-- 
Aaron Welch
Chief Mechanic @ Geek Ventures
423-505-9999
n2nightfall@gmail.com
"Enabling people to do great things with their own ideas."

Chugalunch Tomorrow

From: David White 
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I hereby declare myself the President of Chugalug, and hereby issue a
decree that all in favor of attending the next Chugalunch shall commence
meeting at Conga tomorrow at 11:30pm (to try and beat the lunch crowd by a
little bit).

Now that I'm on my own and starting my own business full time, I'm looking
for opportunities to get out of my apartment, meet people, and network.

But mostly to socialize, so I don't become a hermit, until I'm able to drum
up enough clients to get me out of the house anyway.

11:30am until whenever....

207 E Main St
Chattanooga, TN

-- 
David White
Founder & CEO
*
*
*CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Nonprofit Organizations Worldwide
http://developCENTS.com 
423-693-4234

Announcing Drupal Camp Chattanooga 2013

From: Lee Walker 
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I'm running a local Drupal (www.drupal.org) Conference this year in
Chattanooga. www.drupalcampchattanooga.com

Date:
27th April 2013.
Location:
Business Development Center
100 Cherokee Blvd
Chattanooga TN,
37405

Drupal is an open source content management framework for building
websites.

Some example Drupal sites:
www.whitehouse.gov
www.mtv.co.uk
www.fastcompany.com
www.economist.com
www.law.stanford.edu
www.circle10.org
www.911memorial.org

There will be several tracks, Beginner, Advanced, Theming and Business.

I'm also hoping to run a free "Drupal In A Day" Training along side the
regular camp for guys new to Drupal who want to learn more.
Go from knowing nothing to building Drupal sites in a single day.
It'll be free (Drupal Camp Ticket still needed though) if I can get enough
sponsors to cover that event, else we may have to charge on a per ticket
basis - we are still working that part out.

So anyone who is into web development / web app development will find this
useful.
Anyone who is looking at Drupal as a Content Management Framework / Web App
Framework and wants to know more will also find it very useful.

Tickets will be $25 which includes lunch and a T-Shirt.

I am expecting about 100 Drupalistas, but since we are so close to Atlanta
we get more. (Drupal Camp Atlanta has about 400 attendees.)

Sign up for more details on our temporary site www.drupalcampchattanooga.com
There will be a new site up soon for people to submit session proposals or
sponsor the camp.

Offers of sponsorship are welcome, as is any offers for help organizing the
camp.

Drupal Camps are all community organized and run.

I'd be happy to answer any questions. Fire away.

-- 
Lee Walker
Principal Engineer
404-405-1194
l.s.walker (Skype)
www.codejourneymen.com

Code Journeymen LLC
100 Cherokee Blvd
Suite #332,
Chattanooga TN,
37405

i.t. budget should only be 5% to 10% of entire company budget????

From: Ed King 
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maybe I can borrow Dan's angle grinder and use it to grind another of my axes

does ANYONE on this list work for a company that has an i.t. budget 10% or 
less?   


I was tempted to call for a Chugalunch and see if anyone could convince me that 
any company, even one that isn't a technology company, has an i.t. budget of 
less than 10%, but I checked my budget and I couldn't afford to go to lunch

A Lawyer Under Fire by Chugalug: Meeting Announcement

From: Mike Harrison 
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WHAT:    An actual Chugalug meeting, with a real presentation!

WHEN:    Tuesday, November 27th 2012
          Presentation at 6pm, doors open at 5:30

WHERE:   http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
          Chattanooga Public Library
          1001 Broad Street, Chattanooga TN 37402


Agenda:  Ed Nanney,   http://www.nanneylaw.com/
          Will be addressing intellectual property, IT law.
          Estimate: 30 minute presentation, 30 minutes Q&A
          starting at 6pm.

Questions/topics that have been raised:

          EULAs for websites/software
          Legality of BitCoins and other private monetary systems
          Copyright and other intellectual property issue

===========================================================

Using the massive financial resources of Chugalug (none), and some
sponsorship by benefactors, a couple of pizzas and beverages (non-alcoholic)
will be donated.  Feel free to promote yourself to benefactor level by
bringing something consumable to share.  The intention is to hold your
hunger over for the post-meeting meeting at the Pickle Barrel or other
establishment nearby for more sustenance, camaraderie and revelry.

Nancy took the lead on this after a Chugalunch a few weeks ago
and arranged everything.. Knowing her penchant for titles, I propose
that instead of being President of Chugalug for November, she is
Princess of Chugalug for November.

Spread the word, lets have a fun get together with lots of people. :)

Lawyer Volunteering to Chugalug

Chugalunch - Today - Friday - Miller Plaza

From: Mike Harrison 
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Chugalunch Meeting  - Friday - Oct 26th - 12-ish.

It's Friday. Fall is falling. It's been a long week already at $work
and the weather today has that "end of summer" crispness and warmth.

Miller Plaza:  Subway, Greek Food (next to Subway), Bleacher Bums,
and several sandwich shops right nearby. Add a mix of Friday's Food Trucks
(Famous Nates BBQ?) Add Wifi, lots of communal seating...

Bring or grab some food nearby, come join the group.

Agenda:  Bring a Linux/Android/osX/etc..  toy for show and tell.
          1-10 minute rants by anyone that feels a need to share or rant.

I'll try to be there at 11:30 and gather some tables/chairs.
If you are a shy newbie I'm wearing a short with a Tux on it,
and am a bald geeky looking guy. We might have a penguin or
two on the table.


============================================================
Mike Harrison   bogon@geeklabs.com  cell: 423.605.6943

OT? support

From: wes 
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my company hits pretty low on all those metrics. we have about 10 indians
plus me and 1 more here in the states for escalations, supporting about 300
end-users both in the US and in india.

-wes

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ed King  wrote:

> went to Google and searched for "support staff ratio" and found all sorts
> of
> "testimonials" and food for thought
>
> there's no right/wrong answer but considering
>
> 1) how many users we support
> 2) how many physical locations
> 3) how many servers
> 4) tech saavyness of our users
> 5) how many applications and their complexity
>
> I think we're doing pretty effin good with only 2 "support" people.
>  Good to
> have this thought out, the next time "someone" ask why we need "so much"
> support.
>
> cool, its almost time for my 2 hour lunch break
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ed King 
> To: chugalug@chugalug.org
> Sent: Tue, October 23, 2012 9:04:38 AM
> Subject: [Chugalug] OT?   support
>
> I'm not a PMP project manager nor do I play one on t.v.
>
> However, my team *delivers* and our systems make money for the company.
> We
> don't have any failed projects where the servers are sitting in storage
> room
> gathering dust.
>
> Now, I never said we were perfect.   Does our software have bugs?  Hell
> yeah it
> has bugs.   Some of them never got caught during testing because our field
> users
>
> are a lot more clever about breaking things than we are.
>
> Anyway, my question is, how many support personnel "should" be expected
> for any
> given software system of significant complexity?    I know thats kind of a
> vague
>
> question.
>
>
> I'd love to get some real world examples of how many support folks your
> software
>
> has (and the size/complexity of the system being supported)
>
> If a team is constantly cranking out new products, isn't it just common
> sense
> that the need for support going to increase?
> 

Digital Signatures

From: Mike Harrison 
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Just in case someone wanted to see this.
You can sit and watch on the sidelines for free.

I'm hoping to make it.

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Chattanooga Engineers Club:

NEXT MEETING: October 1st: Pem Guerry, Executive Vice President of SIGNiX 
Solutions – “Digital Signatures”

Have you overnighted an important document to a client, only to wait days 
or even weeks for the document to be signed, because it was stuck on 
someone’s desk while they were away on a business trip?  While many 
organizations have switched to electronic documents to improve convenience 
and efficiency, they still rely on wet ink signatures.  Sticking with ink 
means dealing with postage, additional personnel costs, strained customer 
relationships, document archiving, and slower revenue intake.  Mr. Guerry 
will discuss topics including: signing documents online safely and 
securely, the risks involved in moving towards paperless operations, and 
the cost savings and benefits and return on investment of such a project.


MEETING LOGISTICS:

The Chattanooga Engineer's Club meets noon Mondays at the DOUBLETREE 
HOTEL, 407 Chestnut Street, from 12 noon to 1 pm EST and free parking is 
available at 11:30. Buffet lunch is $16.  If you do not plan to purchase 
lunch, please use chairs around the perimeter of the room.

Steak. Ham, Spam and Noise on the list.

From: Mike Harrison 
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Bret:
> I'm not sure there is a steak in this world worth a 2 hour drive :D

First of all: I'm in Dallas this week. The steak has been awesome.

That was about steak.

This is about "Ham":

The mailing list group has grown a lot smaller over the last few days,
the amount of noise and untrimmed irrelevant top posted messages
are causing peole to leave the list, Chugalug, etc.. in droves.

So that person that knows the answer to your really really hard question
might not be around when you need it. You'll be trying to make sense of
ExpertsExchange posts instead (that was sarcasm).

That person that has a double helix byte spanner and will meet you for 
lunch to share it, won't be around.

And when you post something truly awesome, there will be less people to 
provide external validation, kudos and applause.

And when you need a job, or employee, there will be less people to spread 
the word.

Chugalug's an awesome force in Chattanooga: A bunch of Penguin-heads that 
sometimes come together and make shit happen. But sometimes, we forget 
what we share in common, and get upset at each other over whome and why we 
do business with other entities. Funny thing is, sex and politics are less 
taboo here than who you registered a domain with.

So, I'm asking, nicely. Let's aim higher. Please.

And PLEASE learn how to use whatever crappy interface you use (they all 
suck, just differently) for email and trim the redundant noise from your 
posts/replies/etc..

Option/Plan 9 from outer space: I'll write a filter that replaces that 
extra crap with "Barney Dialogue" for the mailing list...

"I love you, you love me.. We're a happy fam-i-leee..."

Chattanooga Public Library + a side note

From: Elise Walker 
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I wanna learn!
I always want to learn something..

Side note to Nate....     if you call a chugalunch.. please do it on a =
weekend where I can show up! Remember guys I work graveyard shift and so =
if it's not on a weekend I can't go and there is alot of stuff I could =
benefit from in the meetings that I don't get to be a part of...=20

On Jul 19, 2012, at 9:52 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com wrote:

> I like the idea, and I volunteer to teach C/C++ at any level.
> ET=20
>=20
> John Aldrich writes:=20
>> Quoting Nate Hill :=20
>>> Hi all! My name is Nate Hill.  I'm new to Chattanooga.  I just moved =
here from
>>> California to act as the Assistant Director for Technology and =
Digital
>>> Initiatives at the Chattanooga Public Library. I wanted to reach out =
to your group to talk to you a little bit about some
>>> big plans here at the downtown library.  It is early yet, but I'm =
working
>>> on a scheme to turn our vacant, huge 4th floor into an art & =
technology
>>> space.  I won't get into great detail in this email, but one =
component of
>>> what I'm planning up there is a public media lab and hacker dojo =
type
>>> space.  We've got the gig connection, space, and community, so it is =
really
>>> just a matter of getting organized. I'd *love* to get input from =
your group about how you'd like to see this
>>> play out.  I'd also love for the space to become somewhere a group =
like
>>> this one might choose to regularly meet and hang out. Right now the =
4th floor reamins a largely empty room with some beat up old
>>> furniture in it that has to be removed.  I'd like to offer to host a =
group
>>> meeting there so I could meet a bunch of you and talk about it.  =
Interested? btw, I'm a pretty new Linux user.  So you'll have to hang =
with me as I
>>> struggle to keep up with some of your topics :)=20
>> Welcome, Nate.
>> I like the idea, and as someone who has to suffer through using  =
Windows, I applaud anyone who uses an alternative O/S. :D I'd like to =
suggest a couple ideas related to what you had in mind.  First, I'd like =
to maybe suggest that you make the area available to  groups like =
CHUGALUG who would like to promote the use of non-MS  operating system =
to the general public. My idea would be that maybe we  could promote a =
couple community get-togethers to hand out "LIVE" CDs  of Linux so =
people could try it and publicize it to those who come in  and out of =
the library. Also, when the time comes, we could, at least  in theory, =
have a few older machines to demonstrate what can be done  in Linux and =
do an "install fest" on those machines. Another idea would be to have =
some "intro" classes to Linux or  programming using  Free / Open-source =
software like GNU C/C++. It  might help people get jobs if they learn =
how to program. Maybe another  class idea would be to teach web design =
using Drupal or something  similar. I know that there is a Drupal User's =
Group in Chattanooga (I  believe some of the members are on this list as =
well) so maybe one of  them could volunteer to teach the class. Just a =
couple ideas on how to use your new "technology space" at the  library. =
:D
>> 

Need a DMS-59 to Dual DVI adapter

From: Dave Brockman 
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Anyone local have one I can put my hands on before Friday at 11:00 AM?

Standard Dell or HP adapter, DMS-59 Male to Dual DVI Female.

I'll pay $20 or buy lunch or have a garage of swap bait.

Email directly or call please.

Regards,

dtb
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ChattLab MakerSpace event, Saturday June 2nd with Caleb from Hackaday.com

From: Jason Brown 
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Hello Chugalugers.

Tomorrow, Saturday June 2nd, Caleb from the website http://hackaday.com/ 
will be coming through Chattanooga.

We are trying to arrange lunch and a tour of the ChattLab MakerSpace 
while they here and make an event of it.

Here is a writeup they did on the Freeside space in Atlanta: 
http://hackaday.com/2012/05/31/hackerspace-intros-freeside-hackerspace-in-atlanta-georgia/

Look for an email from Tim or me tomorrow morning once we have some 
details on the where and when.

We moved a big 4'x8' CNC router that I have been working on into the 
space last night, still needs a lot of setup but that thing is going to 
be awesome!

--Jason Brown

Gig City / Meeting

From: Mike Harrison 
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Because this has been a hot local topic, I am reposting.
Hope to see you there.

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http://www.chattanoogaengineersclub.org
Chattanooga Engineers Club Newsletter for June 4, 2012

NEXT MEETING

Monday, June 4th:  Charlie Brock of Gig City - Chattanooga is the first city
in the Western Hemisphere to offer 1 Gigabit-per-second fiber internet
service to all of its residents and businesses.  At 20-200 times the maximum
speed available in other communities, the Gig opens the door to unimagined
ways to learn, play and conduct business.  So Chattanooga is hosting a
series of competitions through the summer of 2012 for students and
entrepreneurs to launch future uses of this amazing speed. Eight teams
participating in the CO.LAB Gig Tank event are nearing the end of the second
week of the 13-week competition, which will end with a Demo Day Aug. 9 and a
possibility of $100,000 for a team of entrepreneurs.

Many of the teams come from far outside Chattanooga to participate,
including teams from Tampa, Fla., and Northern Ireland.  Mr. Brock will
introduce us to the teams and projects in the CO.LAB Gig Tank competition.


MEETING LOGISTICS

The Chattanooga Engineer's Club meets noon Mondays at the DOUBLETREE HOTEL,
407 Chestnut Street, from 12 noon to 1 pm EST and free parking is available
at 11:30. Buffet lunch is $16.  If you do not plan to purchase lunch, please
use chairs around the perimeter of the room.

Not quite a Chugalunch.. but..

From: Mike Harrison 
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Miller Plaza on Friday's has become quite the place for lunch.
Foodie trucks with a wide variety of delicious stuff, plus
a socially open and friendly environment.

I'm heading that way in a bit.. the Empanadas from the
"Taste of Argentina" truck are calling my name. Yummie meat pies. :)

Maybe I'll see someone I know there.. I'll be with Nancy,
but it's Friday.. in a sociable, relaxed and geeky mood.

I'll move it should be a regular
Friday Chugalunch/Geeky lunch group meeting.