[OT] CurrentC

From: Stephen Kraus 
------------------------------------------------------
I know we were discussing CurrentC as the competitor to Google Wallet and
Apple Pay.

Ironically, they already got breached:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102132750?trknav=homestack:topnews:1

fwd: [nlug] PhreakNIC now has an android app

From: Jon Nyx 
------------------------------------------------------
FYI; next-to-last bit of PhreakNIC spam, then I'm done 'til we start
promoting the PN 2015 May-Day Mini-con.

~~jonnyX

-----Forwarded Message-----
> From: andrew mcelroy 
> Sent: Oct 28, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: "nlug-talk@googlegroups.com" 
> Subject: [nlug] PhreakNIC now has an android app
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> I wanted to get the word out that PhreakNIC now has an android mobile app.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sophrinix.phreaknic&hl=en
>
> I have an iOS version of this app, but apple would take too long to
> approve it, so we will have to settle for deploying iOS next year.
>
> Respectfully,
> Andrew McElroy

Apple releases patch for OSX version of Bash to address ShellShock

From: Lynn Dixon 
------------------------------------------------------
Finally!
Apple released a patch for their version of Bash.  Its supposed to address
shell shock.  Its not in the App store, nor via Apple Updates as of yet.

But, you can get it from here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1769

I applied it at it has passed all the testing scripts I have tried.

Auto-backups on Mac based on Wireless connection

From: David White 
------------------------------------------------------
Hey folks,
I've got an odd question.

I've just finished setting up my local CentOS 7 box (embedded PC with a SSD
in it), and I'd now like to setup automatic backups on my wife's Mac.

Ideally, the process would go something like this:

   - Apple laptop turns on
   - Automatically detects that its currently connected to the home SSID
   - Automatically detects that the proper external hard drive is connected
      - All of the files she needs to backup remain on the external hard
      drive - they're not on the local disk
   - Based on knowing that its connected to this particular SSID, AND
   knowing that the external hard drive is connected, rsync (or something
   similar) launches
   - Files are copied over via rsync / SSH

Can this be done? If so, any suggestions on how I can do it?

I'm also setting up a VPN connection onto her laptop so that she can
*manually* back things up / recover items if she's not home (using pfSense
+ OpenVPN, which I already have working).

She's a teacher, and the public school system doesn't provide any
centralized repository for her lesson plans, etc..., nor do they provide
any backup system. The school-provided machine is so bad, anyway, that we
bought an external hard drive, and that's been her primary file storage.

So now, obviously I want to take backups off of that external drive in case
something happened to it.

Thanks,
David

-- 
David White
Founder & CEO

*Develop CENTS *
Computing, Equipping, Networking, Training & Supporting
Nonprofit Organizations Worldwide
http://developcents.com
423-693-4234

AFP vs SMB2, tech merits?

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
I know some who just hate Samba. And I recently been toying with AFP.
But now I here starting with Mavericks, Apple defaults to SMB2 for file sharing.
Wonder what y'all thought about that?


http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/06/new-os-x-uses-windows-file-sharing-by-default/

Rod 

ios remote support was lunch downtown today?

From: Sparky 
------------------------------------------------------
Apple has some config tools available. Maybe it has some kind of remote
config options for profiles or something?
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/business/



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Ed King  wrote:

> Thanks, thats a good summary article.  I forwarded it to McTightwad but he
> is still asking me to find a way to remotely configure iphone email.  We
> installed an in-house iredmail server last week.  Our old hosted email was
> POP now we have IMAP.   *Before* we made the switchover, we posted
> instructions [with screenshots] on how to reconfigure iphones for the new
> system, but the boss says we are asking too much from our field workers and
> that we should remotely configure their iphones for them.
>
> Excerpt from field worker job description:
>
> "Moderate to excellent computer ability."
> "Proven proficiency of modern equipment including cell phones, fax
> machines, scanners, computers, palm or other hand held devices, GPS, and
> printers."
>
> So are we expecting too much?   The documentation is clear and concise.  I
> had one field worker (a new guy) say it was the most helpful documentation
> he's ever read and offered to buy my lunch when he's in town.   Its the
> upper level folks who are having trouble following the directions.  Go
> figure.
>
> oh, sorry,  am I being negative?    Ok, I'll go home and stick my tongue
> to the Mac Plus flyback and get some positive electrons in me.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 8/14/14, William Roush  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] ios remote support  was Re:  lunch downtown today?
>  To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"  chugalug@chugalug.org>
>  Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014, 3:35 PM
>
>  ScreenConnect wrote a
>  nice page about it:
>
>  http://www.screenconnect.com/Mobile-Device-Remote-Support
>
>  TL;DR: Apple is mean
>
>  William Roush
>  william.roush@roushtech.net
>  423-463-0592
>
>  http://www.roushtech.net/blog/
>
>
>  On 8/14/2014
>  1:54 PM, Ed King wrote:
>  > Walked down to
>  Doctor Bldg.     Sorry you didn't get to see
>  me!
>  >
>  >
>  > So...   whats the
>  "best" remote support solution for iphone? (eg: to
>  tap INTO the iphone)
>  >
>  > I can't find one that offers full
>  remote control w/o jailbreaking, so whats the next best
>  thing?   Looked at Logmein, Teamviewer, Bomgar so
>  far
>  >
>  > as this is for
>  Mr McTightwad, I'm looking for the most expensive
>  product available
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  --------------------------------------------
>  > On Thu, 8/14/14, Ed King 
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >   Subject: Re: [Chugalug] lunch
>  downtown today?
>  >   To:
>  "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group"
>  
>  >   Date: Thursday, August 14,
>  2014, 11:30 AM
>  >
>  >   maybe.   depends
>  on
>  >   where and when
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >   --------------------------------------------
>  >   On Thu, 8/14/14, Rod-Lists
>  
>  >   wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  Subject: [Chugalug]
>  >   lunch
>  downtown today?
>  >    To:
>  "Chattanooga
>  >   Unix Gnu
>  Android Linux Users Group" 
>  >    Date: Thursday, August 14, 2014,
>  10:01 AM
>  >
>  >
>    Whole office is on the
>  >   road.
>  >
>    Anyone up for lunch downtown?
>  >
>
>  >
>  >    Rod
>  >
>  >   

Anyone ever use Netatalk?

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
allows a linux or bsd machine function as as a AFP server.
Supposedly it even supports time machine.

Also has any tried using afps-ng-utils to access an apple file server?


Rod

Is apple walking away from High End Video editing?

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
Was watching TWiT and Leo LaPorte, with much lamentations, let slip that the next upgrade his company does will be to PC for their editing platform. He feels Apple just isn't catering to the High end video editing scene anymore.

What do y'all think?

OT: need a favor re: old mac

From: Ed King 
------------------------------------------------------
Can someone who has an old mac (128/512/plus) with the d9 connector (not adb) on the back of the computer do me a favor and measure the voltages of each of the 9 pins

I've got +5v coming out of almost every pin!  That can't be right.   Unless I'm just dumb, only pin #2 should be 5v 

pinout:   http://support.apple.com/kb/TA29935

glad I checked the voltages before I connected the attiny84


learned a lot in 24 hours

From: Ed King 
------------------------------------------------------
because I don't have an Apple mouse for my Mac Plus,  I want to replicate this guys project...

http://giferrari.net/blog/?p=159


so I started researching yesterday...    and boy did I have a lot to learn...   total noob...  never done any embedded programming and don't have an Arduino so no experience compiling "sketches"  (didn't even know what the hell a sketch was)

I've learned a lot in 24 hours.  

seems all I need to get started is the Arduino IDE, an ATTiny85 and this thing:  https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11801
(out of stock on sparkfun, but I found it on Amazon).    
Also got the ATTiny85 on amazon and paid way to much for it, but hey its only money

So...

I download the Arduino IDE for Winsux:  http://arduino.cc/en/main/software
"installed" the ATtiny board definitions:  https://github.com/damellis/attiny/tree/master/attiny
downloaded that dude's "sketch" code:  http://giferrari.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Mac2PS2.zip
and succesfully compiled it to a hex file (after conquering that damn "Wprogram.h" not found) ready to send to the ATtiny85...  once it arrives :)

Yeah I could have bought a real Mac Plus mouse for about the same amount as I'll have spent on all the AVR stuff, but where's the fun in that?

I think there may be one other person on this list who gives a rats ass about this project :)    Oh well.  In a few days I'll let y'all know if it worked or not.

Chattanooga maker faire Oct 11

From: "Daniel L. Appleget" 
------------------------------------------------------
10 a.m. =96 6 p.m. Oct. 11 at the First Tennessee Pavilion.

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2014/5/29/277489/Local-Organizers-Announce-Chat=
tanoogas.aspx

http://makerfairechattanooga.com/updates/

-- =

Daniel Appleget
Chattanooga Computer Service
http://www.chattanoogacomputerservice.com/
423-760-0879

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito


Fried Thunderbolt monitor

From: Nate Hill 
------------------------------------------------------
Hey all,
I have a 4-5 year old Apple Thunderbolt monitor that needs a new
motherboard.  It is cooked, that is a pricey fix, and I'm not going to make
it happen.
If someone wants to make me a reasonable offer it is all theirs.
If nothing else, that is some sweet scrap aluminum...
-Nate

-- 
Nate Hill
nathanielhill@gmail.com
http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
http://www.natehill.net

Which file system is better @ preventing bitrot?

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
One Developer's Experience With Real Life Bitrot Under HFS+
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/14/06/14/1316255/one-developers-experience-with-real-life-bitrot-under-hfs

I know a photographer that is dealing with this. One comment suggested JPEGs were part of the problem. Should raw formats be used?

New Kit Review: Pebble Steel

From: Phil Sieg 
------------------------------------------------------
So yesterday my shiny new Pebble Steel smartwatch arrived.

In true geek fashion (pun intended) I sync'd and loaded etc for several hours.

Here are my observations:

1. Excellent build quality for a smartwatch. Not so much compared to a swiss timepiece or nice Timex. Meh. As a watch collector this bums me out a bit. Will get better in time, probably after Apple sets the damned standard.

2. Buggy firmware for both watch and Android. Not unusable, just a wee bit annoying.

3. Not as user configurable as it should be. Example: The backlight that comes on when you flick your wrist is 2 seconds. Why can't I make it 5 seconds, or 3, or 10? Some of the watch faces have a lot of data compactly displayed, and 2 seconds is NOT enough time to grok it.

4. New app-store android app is slower than molasses, to the point of being annoying. I am certain this is partially caused by the bluetooth connection to the watch and necessary confirmations needed by the software as currently configured.

5. UI of watch and nav in the UI is just ok, not optimum. This is a new category and individual usage styles have yet to be mapped, then optimized. I feel certain this will improve fairly quickly with updates.

I have 30 days to decide whether or not this replaces my Titanium Omega Seamaster as my daily watch. I searched for that watch for years and to me it is the ultimate in a rugged daily watch, so the bar here is set pretty high. 

What I can say is that now that my wrist vibrates for texts and phone calls I am a lot more likely to respond. Ever since I started carrying my phone in my pocket I have missed 70% of all my calls and texts, so this should help with that at least.

Phil Sieg
President
SeniorTech LLC / snapfōn®
www.snapfon.com
phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com

Phone: 423.535.9968
Fax: 423.265.9820
Mobile: 423.331.0725

"The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."

Steve Jobs, 1955-2011





Redefining broadband as common carrier, was: "How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds on your website using Ngin

From: Stephen Kraus 
------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, I'd rather have the more modern and less corrupt devils than the ones
that I know are already sold hook, line, and sinker.


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Billy  wrote:

> You're trading your devils for different versions...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Stephen Kraus  wrote:
>
> Comcast can burn in hell. EPB and Google Fiber will save the day.
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Rod  wrote:
>
>>
>> As someone who is sometimes active in the EMA community , the fact that
>> we might just throw away that copper infrastructure scares me.
>> A lot of times in a disaster there is no home power but the copper
>> twisted pair still just works.
>>
>> As to your second point I give you that. Until EPB , I didn't have choice
>> AT&T doesn't even offer DSL at my current location.
>> I will give comcast this one point. The do have local customer service.
>> Ma Bell hasn't had that in Chattanooga in a long time.
>> In fact my sister law had to move to Nashville when Bellsouth moved all
>> those jobs to Nashville.
>>
>> Rod
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 13:29:20 -0400, Joseph Simoneau > joseph.simoneau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's an interesting idea, rob. But, given what's been happening over
>> the last couple years and the history of what happened to the POTS
>> controls, do you really think ANYBODY would go for that?
>>
>> I just want somebody other than Comcast to come to my apartment so I can
>> threaten them with switching if they try to charge me for not fixing
>> something again.
>>
>> -js
>> On May 18, 2014 11:02 AM, "Rod"  wrote:
>>
>>> Which is why I have thought since the 90's that cities should run fiber
>>> to home the rent it out to comcast, charter, epb etc.
>>> Unlike water pipes fiber can handle more than one utility.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:33:41 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III >> bluethegrappler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 05/17/2014 11:31 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/05/understanding-the-new-battle-over-net-neutrality/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:16:09 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 05/12/2014 09:21 AM, Rod wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shouldn't we push the FCC to redifine broadband as common carrier.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>> CAN do that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly are the implications of redefining it as common carrier?
>>>>>> Is
>>>>>> this a good way to protect net neutrality?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That was an interesting read. On the surface it sounds like classifying
>>>> broadband as common carrier would be a good thing. But then it sounds
>>>> like there is some provision requiring ISPs to allow others to use their
>>>> network, something along the lines of having Mediacom run lines to my
>>>> home but being able to choose Comcast as my ISP, but I'm not sure how
>>>> that sort of arrangement would work. It sounds like there is some
>>>> concern that this would remove incentive from ISPs to build out
>>>> infrastructure, which is something we would clearly rather encourage. So
>>>> I'm still not sure if reclassifying broadband is a good solution.
>>>>
>>>> 

Redefining broadband as common carrier, was: "How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds on your website using Ngin

From: Billy 
------------------------------------------------------
You're trading your devils for different versions...

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Stephen Kraus  wrote:=

>=20
> Comcast can burn in hell. EPB and Google Fiber will save the day.
>=20
>=20
>> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Rod  wrote:
>>=20
>> As someone who is sometimes active in the EMA community , the fact that w=
e might just throw away that copper infrastructure scares me.
>> A lot of times in a disaster there is no home power but the copper twiste=
d pair still just works.
>>=20
>> As to your second point I give you that. Until EPB , I didn't have choice=
 AT&T doesn't even offer DSL at my current location.
>> I will give comcast this one point. The do have local customer service. M=
a Bell hasn't had that in Chattanooga in a long time.
>> In fact my sister law had to move to Nashville when Bellsouth moved all t=
hose jobs to Nashville.
>>=20
>> Rod
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 13:29:20 -0400, Joseph Simoneau  wrote:
>>=20
>> That's an interesting idea, rob. But, given what's been happening over th=
e last couple years and the history of what happened to the POTS controls, d=
o you really think ANYBODY would go for that?
>>=20
>> I just want somebody other than Comcast to come to my apartment so I can t=
hreaten them with switching if they try to charge me for not fixing somethin=
g again.
>>=20
>> -js
>>=20
>>> On May 18, 2014 11:02 AM, "Rod"  wrote:
>>> Which is why I have thought since the 90's that cities should run fiber t=
o home the rent it out to comcast, charter, epb etc.
>>> Unlike water pipes fiber can handle more than one utility.
>>>=20
>>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:33:41 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III  wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>> On 05/17/2014 11:31 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>>> http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/05/understanding-the-new-battle-over-net-neu=
trality/
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:16:09 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On 05/12/2014 09:21 AM, Rod wrote:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Shouldn't we push the FCC to redifine broadband as common carrier. T=
hey
>>>>>>> CAN do that.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> What exactly are the implications of redefining it as common carrier?=
 Is
>>>>>> this a good way to protect net neutrality?
>>>>=20
>>>> That was an interesting read. On the surface it sounds like classifying=

>>>> broadband as common carrier would be a good thing. But then it sounds
>>>> like there is some provision requiring ISPs to allow others to use thei=
r
>>>> network, something along the lines of having Mediacom run lines to my
>>>> home but being able to choose Comcast as my ISP, but I'm not sure how
>>>> that sort of arrangement would work. It sounds like there is some
>>>> concern that this would remove incentive from ISPs to build out
>>>> infrastructure, which is something we would clearly rather encourage. S=
o
>>>> I'm still not sure if reclassifying broadband is a good solution.
>>>>=20
>>>> 

Redefining broadband as common carrier, was: "How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds on your website using Ngin

From: Stephen Kraus 
------------------------------------------------------
Comcast can burn in hell. EPB and Google Fiber will save the day.


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Rod  wrote:

>
> As someone who is sometimes active in the EMA community , the fact that we
> might just throw away that copper infrastructure scares me.
> A lot of times in a disaster there is no home power but the copper twisted
> pair still just works.
>
> As to your second point I give you that. Until EPB , I didn't have choice
> AT&T doesn't even offer DSL at my current location.
> I will give comcast this one point. The do have local customer service. Ma
> Bell hasn't had that in Chattanooga in a long time.
> In fact my sister law had to move to Nashville when Bellsouth moved all
> those jobs to Nashville.
>
> Rod
>
>
> On Sun, 18 May 2014 13:29:20 -0400, Joseph Simoneau  joseph.simoneau@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's an interesting idea, rob. But, given what's been happening over the
> last couple years and the history of what happened to the POTS controls, do
> you really think ANYBODY would go for that?
>
> I just want somebody other than Comcast to come to my apartment so I can
> threaten them with switching if they try to charge me for not fixing
> something again.
>
> -js
> On May 18, 2014 11:02 AM, "Rod"  wrote:
>
>> Which is why I have thought since the 90's that cities should run fiber
>> to home the rent it out to comcast, charter, epb etc.
>> Unlike water pipes fiber can handle more than one utility.
>>
>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:33:41 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III > bluethegrappler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  On 05/17/2014 11:31 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/05/understanding-the-new-battle-over-net-neutrality/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:16:09 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 05/12/2014 09:21 AM, Rod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shouldn't we push the FCC to redifine broadband as common carrier.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> CAN do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly are the implications of redefining it as common carrier?
>>>>> Is
>>>>> this a good way to protect net neutrality?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> That was an interesting read. On the surface it sounds like classifying
>>> broadband as common carrier would be a good thing. But then it sounds
>>> like there is some provision requiring ISPs to allow others to use their
>>> network, something along the lines of having Mediacom run lines to my
>>> home but being able to choose Comcast as my ISP, but I'm not sure how
>>> that sort of arrangement would work. It sounds like there is some
>>> concern that this would remove incentive from ISPs to build out
>>> infrastructure, which is something we would clearly rather encourage. So
>>> I'm still not sure if reclassifying broadband is a good solution.
>>>
>>> 

Redefining broadband as common carrier, was: "How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds on your website using Ngin

From: Rod 
------------------------------------------------------

As someone who is sometimes active in the EMA community , the fact that we  
might just throw away that copper infrastructure scares me.
A lot of times in a disaster there is no home power but the copper twisted  
pair still just works.

As to your second point I give you that. Until EPB , I didn't have choice  
AT&T doesn't even offer DSL at my current location.
I will give comcast this one point. The do have local customer service. Ma  
Bell hasn't had that in Chattanooga in a long time.
In fact my sister law had to move to Nashville when Bellsouth moved all  
those jobs to Nashville.

Rod


On Sun, 18 May 2014 13:29:20 -0400, Joseph Simoneau  
 wrote:

>
> That's an interesting idea, rob. But, given what's been happening over  
> the last couple years and the history of what happened to the POTS  
> controls, do you really think ANYBODY would go for >that?
>
> I just want somebody other than Comcast to come to my apartment so I can  
> threaten them with switching if they try to charge me for not fixing  
> something again.
> -js
> On May 18, 2014 11:02 AM, "Rod"  wrote:
>> Which is why I have thought since the 90's that cities should run fiber  
>> to home the rent it out to comcast, charter, epb etc.
>> Unlike water pipes fiber can handle more than one utility.
>>
>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:33:41 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III  
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/17/2014 11:31 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>> http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/05/understanding-the-new-battle-over-net-neutrality/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:16:09 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/12/2014 09:21 AM, Rod wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shouldn't we push the FCC to redifine broadband as common carrier.  
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> CAN do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly are the implications of redefining it as common  
>>>>> carrier? Is
>>>>> this a good way to protect net neutrality?
>>>
>>> That was an interesting read. On the surface it sounds like classifying
>>> broadband as common carrier would be a good thing. But then it sounds
>>> like there is some provision requiring ISPs to allow others to use  
>>> their
>>> network, something along the lines of having Mediacom run lines to my
>>> home but being able to choose Comcast as my ISP, but I'm not sure how
>>> that sort of arrangement would work. It sounds like there is some
>>> concern that this would remove incentive from ISPs to build out
>>> infrastructure, which is something we would clearly rather encourage.  
>>> So
>>> I'm still not sure if reclassifying broadband is a good solution.
>>>
>>> 

Redefining broadband as common carrier, was: "How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds on your website using Ngin

From: Joseph Simoneau 
------------------------------------------------------
That's an interesting idea, rob. But, given what's been happening over the
last couple years and the history of what happened to the POTS controls, do
you really think ANYBODY would go for that?

I just want somebody other than Comcast to come to my apartment so I can
threaten them with switching if they try to charge me for not fixing
something again.

-js
On May 18, 2014 11:02 AM, "Rod"  wrote:

> Which is why I have thought since the 90's that cities should run fiber to
> home the rent it out to comcast, charter, epb etc.
> Unlike water pipes fiber can handle more than one utility.
>
> On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:33:41 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III  bluethegrappler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On 05/17/2014 11:31 PM, Rod wrote:
>>
>>> http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/05/understanding-the-new-battle-
>>> over-net-neutrality/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:16:09 -0400, Robert A. Kelly III
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 05/12/2014 09:21 AM, Rod wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Shouldn't we push the FCC to redifine broadband as common carrier. They
>>>>> CAN do that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What exactly are the implications of redefining it as common carrier? Is
>>>> this a good way to protect net neutrality?
>>>>
>>>
>> That was an interesting read. On the surface it sounds like classifying
>> broadband as common carrier would be a good thing. But then it sounds
>> like there is some provision requiring ISPs to allow others to use their
>> network, something along the lines of having Mediacom run lines to my
>> home but being able to choose Comcast as my ISP, but I'm not sure how
>> that sort of arrangement would work. It sounds like there is some
>> concern that this would remove incentive from ISPs to build out
>> infrastructure, which is something we would clearly rather encourage. So
>> I'm still not sure if reclassifying broadband is a good solution.
>>
>>