BAD GOOGLE! google drops xmmp

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
"During last week's Google I/O conference, the company announced a replacement for its aging Talk instant messenger: Google Hangouts. Hangouts, which is only available for Android, iOS, and Chrome, offers closer integration with Google+. Unfortunately, the new product drops support for the XMPP instant messaging protocol, which has been an integral part of Talk for over ten years."
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/05/20/2315216/google-drops-xmpp-support

[OT] Blackberry 10?

From: James Nylen 
------------------------------------------------------
Is anybody familiar with the new Blackberry phones?  How active is the
custom ROM community?  I'd like to return to a phone with a physical
keyboard, if possible, and I'm thinking BB may be worth a look.  I use
Android now.

OT: "Smart" TVs

From: John Aldrich 
------------------------------------------------------
Guys,
Apologies for the mostly off-topic post.I'm still trying to figure out 
what TV to get and I think I want a "smart" TV so I don't have to have a 
separate set-top appliance for streaming media, if I can't find anything 
on Dish to watch. That being said, I see that we have two different 
kinds of "Smart" TVs - those with some random embedded O/S and the 
manufacturer's "App" store, and then there's the kind with the embedded 
Android OS and the "Google Play" store, which apparently has lots of 
movies and TV shows all on it's own, plus you can install Netflix as an 
app, and apparently Amazon's "Prime" streaming media as well.

So, is it worth an extra $100 for an Android-based TV or should I stick 
with whatever random O/S the manufacturer puts on there? I'm leaning 
towards paying the extra $100 for the Android TV unless someone can give 
me a good reason not to.

Or, should I just buy a Roku box or build a Linux-based Media Center PC 
and not worry about streaming built into the TV? I have to say having a 
computer built into the TV sounds like a nice thing to me....

.htaccess -- SOLVED

From: rdflowers 
------------------------------------------------------
A call to hostgator helped me to realize the .htaccess file needed to  
be IN the doc root, not just above it.

THANKS, EVERYONE !


----- Message from seabre986@gmail.com ---------
     Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:28:08 -0400
     From: Sean Brewer 
Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group  

  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] .htaccess
       To: rd@chatta.us, CHUGALUG 


> Also, like Joshua said. Make sure you have mod

OT: B&N Rant

From: Adam Jimerson 
------------------------------------------------------
I think this is my first ever rant on Chugalug o,O

Anyways as some of you that know me well know that two months ago I lost my
house due to a fire (did not want to make it public to avoid a bunch of
half assed pitty emails).  Since then I have been fighting with my
insurance company trying to get expense and personal loss reimbursements,
not fun...  The other week my insurance company told me that they wanted
receipts for everything I lost in the fire, seeing as how i bought most of
my stuff online I thought to myself that would be easy.  Until I got to
Barnes and Noble...  I purchased a 1st Gen Nook from them back in 2010, I
login to their website to try and get a copy but to my surprise it was not
listed under "My Orders".  My payment went through PayPal so I had
information about the transaction including an invoice number there.  I go
to their online chat to see if someone there can help me, the answer I get
there is "you will have to call our customer support number to get them to
help you".  So I called there customer support number and spent almost an
hour talking to three different people before getting a 3rd tier manager,
all of them hand the same responses to my request the first of which was
"Why would you want a copy of your invoice?" then it to "Our system deletes
invoices after 18 months and we have no way of recovering that information"
then to "Let me research if there is something I could to for you" which
resulted to me getting transfered to someone else.  Finally I was given the
email address for what may or may not be there upper management to see if
someone there can help me out.

I know that the Nook is more open about running Linux and Android then the
Kindle and from the Nook Color on you can run custom Android ROMS on it,
but that fact fails in comparison to their piss poor excuse for
customer service and billing practices (if they know their system does that
and they can not get who ever wrote their system to change that the least
they can do is copy old invoices somewhere else for long term storage).  My
advice to my fellow LUG members is if you choose to do business with B&N
make sure you keep a copy of your invoice on a trusted service (DropBox,
Box, Google Drive, SpiderOak, etc) or a server that you trust, because if
they treat someone trying to get copy of a receipt I can only imagine what
they would say to someone trying to get them to honor an
extended warranty when they already deleted the invoice (and therefor their
record of sale before hand).

If you are in the market for a Ebook reader then stay away from the Nook
and get a Kindle (at least Amazon keeps invoices), or if you have a
smartphone, phablet, or a tablet use a Ebook reader app on your device and
save yourself.

/me end rant mode

Linux volunteer opportunity

From: Luke Prince 
------------------------------------------------------
I love the idea of a Raspberry Pi kiosk and would happily volunteer some
time to help set it up on that platform. I have always wanted to play with
one, and this could be the perfect opportunity!

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> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 07:05:55 -0500
> From: Mike Robinson 
> To: chugalug@chugalug.org
> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station)
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> The usual way to run a kiosk-station is to configure a user-name (often
> password-free, often always-logged-on by default) which runs the kiosk
> application directly as its "shell."  Thus, when that user logs-on, the
> kiosk is running; when the kiosk program ends for any reason, the user is
> now by definition logged-off.  Or, if you want a GUI, select a
> window-manager such as Matchbox which is designed for this purpose.
>
>
> http://serverfault.com/questions/59329/im-looking-for-secure-linux-kiosk-software
>
> http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/intro.htm
>
> http://www.engineering.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Linux/LinuxKiosk
>
> http://www.flatcoder.co.uk/how-to-build-a-secure-kiosk-operating-system/
>
>
> ---------
> Mike Robinson
> Technical Director
> Sundial Services International, LLC
> http://www.sundialservices.com
> miker@sundialservices.com
> (615) 268-3829
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-robinson/51/532/5a
>
> >
> > I'm not a guru but, I think some kind of kiosk would not be out of my
> reach.
> >
> > Maybe Lubuntu with Firefox in kiosk mode?
> >
> > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/r-kiosk/
> >
> >
> > On 04/01/2013 11:58 AM, Nate Hill wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> As part of our 3D printing service we are offering at the library,
> >> with thanks to some help from James and Bill of Engage 3D, we now have
> >> 4 formerly retired and discarded computers running Ubuntu.  The plan
> >> is to have those running as Tinkercad stations, but Tinkercad is going
> >> away (lame) so we'll use something else.  Obviously we can do a lot
> >> more than just this with these machines.
> >>
> >> I know there are some Linux based kiosk systems out there; setups that
> >> allow people to schedule reservations of computers.  We don't yet have
> >> the demand that we need something like this, but I'm hoping as we
> >> expand hours and services on The 4th Floor this will really grow into
> >> a public computer lab running all open source goodies.
> >>
> >> I've got a machine that could be tasked as the 'computer signup
> >> station'.  Does anyone on this list want to give this project a shot?
> >> We'd love to have you.
> >>
> >> Nate
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nate Hill
> >> nathanielhill@gmail.com 
> >> http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
> >> http://www.natehill.net
> >>
>
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> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Linux volunteer opportunity (Kiosk station)
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> Thanks for the links.
>
> Some suggest running the whole thing off a flash drive.
>
> It could probably all be done on a Raspberry Pi.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:01:21 -0400
> From: Dan Eveland 
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
>         
> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Intro to Python class at the library
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>
> I am Nate's web guy. I have now made it much more obvious when registering
> to show if you are on the wait-list. It was way too subtle with small text.
> Basically anyone who registered after 7:30PM on April 1st is on the wait
> list. I see Michael Scholten in the class and Lynn Dixson on the wait list.
> Feel free to email me directly if you would like me to check.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Michael Scholten  >wrote:
>
> > Thanks Nate
> > On Apr 2, 2013 7:47 PM, "Nate Hill"  wrote:
> >
> >> Hey
> >> I will follow up with my web guy and see what's up with registered folk
> >> vs wait list folk
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, April 2, 2013, Lynn Dixon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael
> >>> I didn't get any response other than the confirmation on the webpage.
> >>> Hopefully we were able to get in the class!
> >>> On Apr 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Michael Scholten" 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> (in late response to you Lynn...) I signed up. Pretty certain I am in
> >>>> the first 25 as there were still 2 slots open after I put my name in
> >>>> although I can't be sure. Should we/I have gotten any sort of
> confirmation
> >>>> Nate? Email or otherwise?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM, rdflowers  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Simple interactions with a database, examples of actual code that are
> >>>>> fairly simple, BUT are beyond the "Hello, World" stage,
> python.orgmailing lists, getting new modules from
> >>>>> python.org or elsewhere, hashes, sets, multisets, tips and tricks;
> >>>>> or, some non-crowded subset of all that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Message from stephen@averagesecurityguy.**info ---------
> >>>>>     Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:16:25 -0400
> >>>>>     From: Stephen Haywood 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group  >>>>> chugalug@chugalug.org>
> >>>>>  Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Intro to Python class at the library
> >>>>>       To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group  >>>>> chugalug@chugalug.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  What specific things would you expect a 102 course to cover?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stephen Haywood
> >>>>>> Owner, ASG Consulting
> >>>>>> CISSP, GSEC, OSCP
> >>>>>> T: @averagesecguy
> >>>>>> W: averagesecurityguy.info
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- End message from stephen@averagesecurityguy.**info -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA
> >>>>> http://chalice.us/poe/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 

Sofa kink packed.. going to moed.

From: CA 
------------------------------------------------------
I'm surprised you went to the buffet by Wal-Mart, that place has always
sucked. Horrible service and out of time food. Im sorry rice sitting 2hrs
in a pan..yucky. I tried to goto burger at about 8pm and they had a line
almost to the door

On Friday, March 22, 2013, Coe, Carson David  wrote:
> NO
>
> That place is not good. I mean, it tastes okay...but I went there with my
girlfriend and we both got sick from it. I got sushi and she got lo mein.
So yeah. Avoid if possible.
>
> Rod-Lists  wrote:
>
>
>  Away from net. missed this.
> I keep thinking we need to check out that new asian place at the corner.
I think it is called ginger bistro or something.
>
> ----- Mike Harrison  wrote:
>> Ok.  I did that while getting in the car. Mojo was also packed. We ended
up at the chinese buffet next to walmart. Which dispite the cliche, was
pretty darn good.
>>
>> My apologies to anyone lost looking for geeks stuffing their faces.
>>
>>
>> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Dan Lyke 
>> Date: 03/22/2013  11:50 AM  (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Sofa kink packed.. going to moed.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Mike Harrison 
wrote:
>> > Subjectvsays it...
>>
>> I'm confused, 'cause I thought "moed" is Hebrew for the standard set
>> of religious festivals.
>>
>> Dan
>> 

So do you like a tradition cyberdeck or a trek pad?

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
our english friend will go ape over the second one.

http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/02/22/coolship-android-computer-in-a-keyboard/

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/02/pwnpad/

Chugalug Digest, Vol 7, Issue 85

From: Peter Veotsch 
------------------------------------------------------
I use VirtualBox as =A0my hypervisor. =A0It runs well and fast under mint. =
=A0I haven't noticed many practical differences between the type 1 and type=
 2 hypervisors for workstation use.=0A=0APeter Voetsch=0A=0A=0A

[OT] Gadget Carrier

From: Chad Smith 
------------------------------------------------------
Hello,

The world of computing, as you know, is getting more and more mobile -
tablets, smart phones, mobile hot spots, internet-hungry handheld game
consoles and media players... I was wondering if anyone had any experience
/ luck shopping for a bag or carrier or something that could hold them all
- and their wires, SD cards, and extra batteries...

I have a laptop bag for my laptop, and I have backpack for mega-hauls, but
I'm looking for an everyday carrier big enough for my 7" tablet, a smart
phone, a media player, a mobile hot spot, a game system, and maybe one or
two other pocket-sized devices, and the aforementioned accessories. (I even
have a couple of pocketable power strips that I carry with me.

So far, I have tried something called a "Gadget Bag" - which was really for
a camera, and was too small for the tablet... a tolietries bag (which fit
everything, and offered decent organization, but no padding, and the zipper
kept mis-firing almost immediately)... and a small, somewhat padded bag
that would fit a small netbook, but didn't have a lot of organization to
it, and looked too much like a purse (after getting 3 comments from
different people in the same week, I decided it was time to retire it).

I was super disappointed by the Gadget Bag, even the name seemed right, but
the size was way off.

I realize it's kind of dumb carrying all those things, but I like the sense
of security knowing I have a ton of ways to get online.  And, that way when
someone asks me "iOS or Android" I can say "Why choose? And why leave out
webOS, Maemo, and whatever the heck this thing runs?"

Plus, there's the Geek Cred, which was being off-set by the "He carries a
Purse" cred....

*- Chad W. Smith*

Mediatomb... or better?

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------

I'm diving into things I would not normally do at home, at the request of 
Princess Nancy and am wondering if ya'll had advice.

Her goal is encoding a big rubber tub of music and audio CD's and making 
them available to a player in her office, making the tub go away.

I tried to buy her a Logitech Squeezebox...
but she balked at the price. For now.

So, using what I have laying around I updated a Chumby Classic with Zurks 
offline firmware:   http://forum.chumby.com/viewtopic.php?id=7831
which works very well.. impressive. She likes the Chumby because it is 
cute, the speaker is good enough for her uses (quite background music).

I'm using a little Asus Atom netbook as a server. I tried using it in 
Squeezebox mode, but after burning some time playing with setting up 
"logitechmediaserver" (the current version of SqueezeServer) I did an 
"apt-get remove --purge logitechmediaserver" It seems to be quite the 
kludge with lots of competing documentation.

Following Zurks notes in a Readme file, I installed MediaTomb as a 
UPnP/DLNA server on the Netbook. I'm impressed. The Chumby does it well 
enough, and enabled a webserver for managing the playlist. It also worked 
very well with my Android Samsung Note II (I'm still liking it..) using 
"MediaHouse" as an App.

My Asus RT16 has a "minidlna" server in it, but it seems to be picky
about what it talks to. The Chumby can not see files in the folders,
but my phone dos.

I've decided to go down this road and do it well.

So, my question is: Is MediaTomb the best choice for a UPnP/DLNA
server? I see a lot of options.

What are ya'll liking for a UPnP/DLNA server and
what else are you using it for?













============================================================
Mike Harrison   bogon@geeklabs.com  cell: 423.605.6943

Android musings

From: Phil Sieg 
------------------------------------------------------
So.

I have been a full time Android user for one week now. My device is a =
Galaxy Note 2 (ATT version, rooted and unlocked of course).

I have some observations that of course are from a long time iOS user's =
perspective.

1. Almost all 56 Android mail clients suck. Aqua Mail sucks less than =
the rest, but still sucks.
2. Why so goddamned many menu's and choices buried 5 layers deep?
3. The water droplet sound that happens when I swipe my Phone to unlock =
it is driving me out of my mind. I can't figure out how to shut it up =
(see item 3).
4 There are NO financial/stock market apps for this thing that are worth =
a damn. Also see Item 1.
5. The calendar is a POS. Seems to be the same dilemma as item 1.
6. Why do I need an app drawer? iOS definitely got this part right.
7. eBook readers. Also see item 1. Could care less about the kindle app, =
don't speak to me about it.

On a brighter note:

1. Widgets are cool.
2. I LOVE having a 5.5" screen and a stylus.
3. swappable battery.
4. Micro SD goodness and ease of loading content ;-)

Hmm it seems most of my "brighter" items are actually hardware related =
and not a plus for Android.

I will stick with Android for the foreseeable future, however it is very =
LINUX like in the need for constant tweaking and not always working. I =
love the IDEA of linux and try to implement the use of it in any way =
that I can, however Cupertino has a distinct advantage with their =
philosophy that "Shit should just work".

Phil Sieg
President
SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE
www.snapfon.com
phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com

Phone: 423.535.9968
Fax: 423.265.9820
Mobile: 423.331.0725

"The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. =
It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."

Steve Jobs, 1955-2011





Fwd: Exciting Job Opportunity to work on webRTCatEricsson

From: "Dr.D " 
------------------------------------------------------
That is what I am say...  If it is a database you got to talk to it.. 
I don't care what the syntax.. It has to have a language

So if you don't talk to it, Why bother with data.. 


Got it !.. Big Flat Table, Row 1 for Name, Row 2 for data, Row 3 to tell you
what row 2 is.. 

Now I can put Everything in it..  Look out Google...

Don


 




 

-----Original Message-----
From: chugalug-bounces@chugalug.org [mailto:chugalug-bounces@chugalug.org]
On Behalf Of Dan Lyke
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:57 PM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Fwd: Exciting Job Opportunity to work on
webRTCatEricsson

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Dr.D  wrote:
> That is something I have yet to try to understand.  a "No" Server 
> Query Language Database..
> If you don't have a Server Query Language to talk to it; then do you 
> just Think the data into place..  ?

Well for a while MongoDB's big selling point was its write speed, which
basically came from the fact that it didn't guarantee writes, it just queued
stuff up in memory and hopefully got around to writing it at some point.

You can see where I'm going here: Why bother with data in the first place?
Managing it just slows things down...

(IMHO: "NoSQL" databases are like the people who tell you about their novel
new database structure in which everything fits in to a single table that
has three columns... And it's so flexible, because you can add fields
easily, and everything's a string, and...)

Dan

Fwd: Exciting Job Opportunity to work on webRTC atEricsson

From: "Dr.D " 
------------------------------------------------------
I got past that one ... Now I had to Google.. Riak  to find out it is a
NoSql database..  
 
That is something I have yet to try to understand.  a "No" Server Query
Language Database..   
If you don't have a Server Query Language to talk to it; then do you just
Think the data into place..  ?
 
Dr.D
 
 

  

New Tablet... Jellybeans are delicious

From: Chad Smith 
------------------------------------------------------
Finally got my new tablet today. SmartQ X7.

Specs:

Android 4.1.2 Jellybean
Dual-core TI OMAP 4470, ARM Cortex-A9 1.5 GHz CPU
Quad-core GPU PowerVR SGX 544
2 GB DDR2 RAM
16 GB onboard flash storage
MicroSD card slot (supports up to 32 GB cards)
Google Play store
7" IPS 1280 X 800 pixel 10-point multitouch screen (180=B0 viewing angle)
mini-HDMI out
3.5 mm headphone jack
USB OTG
GPS
Bluetooth
2 MP Cameras front and back
FM radio receiver and transmitter
Gravity sensor
Three-axis accelerometer
Hardware 1080P video decoding
3D graphics acceleration
Flash 11.1

Very cool toy.  I am happy.  I can drive places I've never been before
again.

*- Chad W. Smith*

qemu for android

From: Ed King 
------------------------------------------------------


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.max2idea.android.limbo.main&hl=en&rdid=com.max2idea.android.limbo.main&rdot=1



Would love to try this out but my cheapo tablet won't download the apk from the 
market and I'm too lazy/stupid to compile the source from scratch...  altho I 
may feel differently after a nap (was up all night pulling a transmission)

Meeting Tonight at Downtown Library: 4th Floor

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------

Last reminder. Really. Be there.

WHAT:    A Lawyer under Fire at a Chugalug

WHEN:    Tuesday, November 27th 2012
          Presentation at 6pm, doors open at 5:30

WHERE:   http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
          Chattanooga Public Library
          1001 Broad Street, Chattanooga TN 37402


Agenda:  Ed Nanney,   http://www.nanneylaw.com/
          Will be addressing intellectual property, IT law.
          Estimate: 30 minute presentation, 30+ minutes Q&A
          starting at 6pm.

Questions/topics that have been raised:

          EULAs for websites/software
          Legality of BitCoins and other private monetary systems
          Copyright and other intellectual property issue

This meeting is being hosted by Nancy Harrison and Jason Brown.

=================================================================

Using the massive financial resources of Chugalug (none), and some
sponsorship by benefactors, a couple of pizzas and beverages (non-alcoholic)
will be donated.  Feel free to promote yourself to benefactor level by
bringing something consumable to share.  The intention is to hold your
hunger over for the post-meeting meeting at the Pickle Barrel or other
establishment nearby for more sustenance, camaraderie and revelry.

Chugalug is the Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group.
It is one of the older Linux centric user groups in the world, 
with members from many corners of it.

Jolla - Sailfish (Meego/Maemo follow-up)

From: Chad Smith 
------------------------------------------------------
Mike had mentioned this last month, but the event has taken place now, and
the UI has been revealed.

Sailfish OS designed by Jolla (somewhere between Y'all uh and Holla if
Holla started with a Y) based on Meego which is based on Maemo and some
other project that also died.  And QT and Mer are things too apparently.

Either way, it's a Linux based open source mobile operating system designed
to be more open (like Linux is supposed to be) than Android, uses smart
tiles like Windows (phone) 8 (wait for the suing to begin) and has a unique
take on multitasking.

Looks very cool.  I hope someone ports it to a device that i own.  Since I
have a Maemo running Nokia N900, there is a chance...

http://jolla.com/

https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Overview

*- Chad W. Smith*

Lawyer Under Fire by Chugalug: Meeting Reminder - Tuesday Nov 27th.

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------

I'm sure that once the Thanksgiving food coma wears off, you will have
forgotten this epic meeting was coming up. They have seating for 50 setup,
and room for hundreds more.. Be there.

--------------------------------------------------------------
WHAT:    A Lawyer under Fire at a Chugalug

WHEN:    Tuesday, November 27th 2012
          Presentation at 6pm, doors open at 5:30

WHERE:   http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
          Chattanooga Public Library
          1001 Broad Street, Chattanooga TN 37402


Agenda:  Ed Nanney,   http://www.nanneylaw.com/
          Will be addressing intellectual property, IT law.
          Estimate: 30 minute presentation, 30+ minutes Q&A
          starting at 6pm.

Questions/topics that have been raised:

          EULAs for websites/software
          Legality of BitCoins and other private monetary systems
          Copyright and other intellectual property issue

This meeting is being hosted by Nancy Harrison and Jason Brown.

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Using the massive financial resources of Chugalug (none), and some
sponsorship by benefactors, a couple of pizzas and beverages (non-alcoholic)
will be donated.  Feel free to promote yourself to benefactor level by
bringing something consumable to share.  The intention is to hold your
hunger over for the post-meeting meeting at the Pickle Barrel or other
establishment nearby for more sustenance, camaraderie and revelry.

Chugalug is the Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group.
It is one of the older Linux centric user groups in the world, 
with members from many corners of it.