Cell phone

From: Jonathan Calloway 
------------------------------------------------------
I sent out an email to the list on Saturday but I didn't get any reposes.

If you have an old android phone laying around, I am trying to help someone who can use it.  It needs to be unlocked or on ATT.  

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

Need a reliable Android phone

From: Jonathan Calloway 
------------------------------------------------------
Good morning!

I have need of a used Android phone that can take a full size sim.  It needs to be GSM based, and compatible with ATT or T-Mobile.  I’m not really concerned about how old it is, or what version of Android it has, it just needs to be something you are willing to let go of for less than $75.

If you have something laying around that may help, please email me off list with your cell as I will be out all day.

Thanks!

Jonathan Calloway

You always learn some things when sniffing..

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------
Been playing at home for the night.. Mostly with some Ubiquity Bullet M2’s and various software loads. And a few Linux and Mac devices.

I’m really liking the hardware, form factor, etc.. the two best loads are the default AirOS from Ubiquity. Unless you are doing weird stuff, it’s polished and does everything you would want. You have to turn off some Ubiquity specific features for it to play nice with older hardware/OS’s, like setting the speed to 20mbps. No flaming reason to use anything else for most uses. I’m impressed. 

On the playing around side:

http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/ Very nicely tuned up for doing a HAM style emergency mesh/ad-hoc network. It has preconfigured web menu’s for the common deployments that a ham organization would want. Which also makes it hard to do something it does automagically do. 

Then I played again with Commotion. http://commotionwireless.net I like where they seem to be going and they are trying to make a friendly easy to use interface that other less technical people should be able to use to add their hardware to a mesh. They may have an Android app and a Laptop app that would allow them to join as mesh nodes in the future, rather than standard WiFI clients. Sounds good. In Theory. In practice, it’s a work very much in progress based on the Luci web interfaces that the standard OpenWRT install is on. Lots of things don’t seem to work well, like the initial “set the admin password” page. Frustrating. 

OpenWRT. http://www.openwrt.org in true geek fashion is fairly minimal on “slick” and robust on “it works”. As I started to add some packages to the most recent install, I’m blown away by the things that easily install and just seem to work:  Including iptraf, aircrack  (very useful tools).. 


I’ve given up on the “mesh” idea for now, because a solid AP and single Repeater will work for my remote event management needs I have coming up this fall. To do those things, I have a minimal web chat system (auto-updates across the people/devices using it.. ) and Dokuwiki running on a netbook as a server and upstream gateway. Should do what needs to be done: bringing a portable intranet and possibly upstream to the net to interesting places.

Part of playing around is sniffing your own home and devices. I used to do this a lot. It’d been a while. Using sniffit, iptraf airdump and OpenWRT, I found some devices I had forgotten about, and found that even seemingly properly working devices sure chatter a lot more than they used to. What is Google Chrome doing when it is doing nothing.. not even a window open. Cripes it is busy. 

No matter how you do it, I’m tossing out the idea that you might want to sniff your local home traffic every once in a while, and verify everything that is on it should be, and is behaving properly. 

And now.. time to do some remote database maintenance.. Sigh.. 



 


FREE TO A GOOD HOME!

From: John Aldrich 
------------------------------------------------------
I purchased an android-based fitness tracker off Alibaba. I never could
get it to connect to my phone, so I never used it. If anyone is
interested in "hacking" on it, let me know and I'll give it to you.
Don't need any money for it. :)

-- 
  John Aldrich
  mrmaxx@nospammail.net

Senior Storage Engineer position in Chattanooga, great rate available

From: Matt Keys 
------------------------------------------------------
I've confirmed it's TVA.

FreePBX Call Recording Issue (Stephen Kraus)

From: Justin McAteer 
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Could be that the call is being setup with media directly between the phone=
s. What type of interface are you using for your external calls?
Thanks=2C=0A=

Justin McAteer=0A=

(256) 694-9195


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Review of Ubuntu Phone Was | Long Post: Smartphone rant (Take 2?)

From: Rod-Lists 
------------------------------------------------------
http://www.businessinsider.com/meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-review-2015-7

----- Original Message -----
> It's dead Jim:
> Well, it happened. My last smartphone has died. Accidentally entered pool
> with my phone in my pocket.
> 
> Linux or bust:
> Last smartphone! Multiple reasons, yet it all boils down to I want a Linux
> smartphone or not at all. I should own the phone if I bought it, especially
> at $300.
> 
> Next Phone:
> So, My next phone will at best be a candy bar simple feature with full qwerty
> keyboard. Otherwise, a candy bar 12 pad. I refuse to do the slider or
> sideways keyboards. I'll be looking for the following features, moderate
> camera resolution, and SMS. I don't need GPS. I don't need to go places I
> don't already know or someone I'm with doesn't already know. You can find me
> with your fancy phone if your seeing me is that important to you. Or
> vacations, I can rent a GPS. Can't be rented? Okay, buy and return within 2
> weeks.
> 
> Samsung Note: (TouchWiz mess)
> A few years back, I bought the Samsung Note. Not the Note 2, 3, 4... ad
> nauseum.
> I promptly roo.... Nope, Can't do that without attaching to a computer. Okay,
> so I promptl... Nope. Trying to do it in Linux was a fight in futility. So,
> I handed my phone to another geek friend and he rooted the phone for me. He
> waited on Winders to install some drivers, installed a debugging thing.
> Downloaded and installed Android SDK stuff. Well, went through all kinds of
> crap and got it rooted. By in large, I liked the phone and features. I
> didn't like TouchWiz. So I tried a couple of different launchers and settled
> on Nova because of its stability and features. I feverishly played with and
> programmed that phone off and on for 6 months. Then I started hitting walls.
> Lots of walls. Had plenty of wiggle room to do lots more things I'd like and
> better round out many of the Tasks I'd created using Tasker. However, some
> things just didn't report properly. Some things just weren't accessible.
> Some where unreliable. I had out grown the phone in under 6 months. I
> stopped most all development with the phone because I had outgrown it. It
> could no longer keep up with my desires and demands. And I couldn't simply
> code my way out of it either. Sure, I did code my way around many things.
> Others simply weren't to be had. Other people were forging ahead with newer
> Android versions. I was held back by Samsung on an old KitKat. I made
> several attempts to download the update. In hindsight, I am very glad it
> failed. (Explained in Nexus 5) Phone eventually died and I went without a
> smartphone for a few months.
> 
> Nexus 5: (Not a utopia)
> I dreamed and imagined that getting closer to Google would release many of my
> Samsung struggles. I was wrong. I started up my phone and started getting
> this eerie tickling feeling I was being watched. For the first time, I was
> really starting to feel the phone wasn't mine. You MUST have a Google
> account to use this device. Yes, this was the case in the previous Android
> as well. Somehow, in my excitement I had overlooked it. That enthusiastic
> excitement was now gone. I was starting to get the feeling that "Anything
> you say can and will be used against you in a cour..". Sorry, I think you
> get the idea. If not. "I WAS FEELING STALKED!" So, I am signed in again.
> After all, I already have an account. Now I proceed to root my phone. Nope!
> Again, I must attach to a computer, install drivers, install debugger, (ADB
> - Android Debug Bridge), install 3rd party questionable rooting software
> specifically for your type of phone. And even at that, it really needs to be
> Mac or Windows. Easiest when you use windows. (grumble, grumble, windows,
> virus target, $$Mac$$, Closed off) I like Linux, I hate others! Hey, I
> respect the others in their own right. I do understand some of the struggles
> and efforts required in order to create and maintain a robust OS. Respecting
> the work doesn't mean I have to like the results of the labor. Back to the
> phone. I had the phone rooted for me. Now, for the first time I can compare
> phones. Note versus Nexus, I can do what I couldn't and can't do what I
> could. I won't bother going into a phone by phone comparison of features. I
> couldn't transfer most of my previous settings over, for several reasons.
> One was because I now had a different launcher, default Google Launcher. I
> was thinking, the Google Launcher and the Siri like feature was cool. Ok
> Google, Listen to everything just in case I might say "Ok Google". This left
> me with yet another big brother feeling. I enabled and played with it, then
> disabled within a few hours. Eventually Google provided the option to update
> to Lollipop. Yay!, I'll wait a few days to see what others say and I don't
> have time to fix anything that might break right now. Pop, Nag, update
> ready, "Yeah, I'll get to it. Leave me alone!" Pop, nag, update ready. Um
> wait, how often is this going to happen. Pop, nag. Google?!?
> Pop, nag. This is annoying and affecting my Data usage! Pop, nag. And I can't
> shut it off anywhere. Pop, nag. My battery is being drained heavily because
> the update is constantly running and routinely checking Google for the
> update, About half the life it use to be. Pop, nag. Okay, I'll update just
> to stop the battery drain. Besides, it is a weekend and I have time to deal
> with any problems. Arrgghhh!!! That white background! That is so freaking
> ugly? Crap, wait! What? Ugh, Just because Apple thinks White is the new
> black. Argh, it is so garishly ugly and default for everything. Well, here
> comes Nova Launcher to the rescue, partly. Freaking Settings menu and many
> default menus still have this horrible theme that I can't change. Oh well.
> So, wait! Uh, I'm not rooted anymore! What? Damn it, This is MY PHONE! I
> guess that is what I get for thinking. Uh, can you hear me now...!!! Phone
> dead. I have no cell service. Oh, there it is again. Okay. I programmed it
> to say, "Signal Lost" every time it went down and "Service Acquired" when it
> came up. That was happening a lot. Generally about twice an hour, sometimes
> more, sometimes less. In addition, it would do it after nearly every call
> ended. I changed the messages to "Lost", "Found". And setup logging of every
> incident and signal strength at the time to a file. I changed the messages
> again to a comical, "I once was lost", "But now I'm found" and "Of all the
> things I ever lost", "I missed my mind the most". I had it randomly pick
> between those message pairs. I never did root the phone again. I Went
> through another nag update cycle and still the cell service problem
> remained. I Reported the problem to Google and nothing has come of it. The
> nagging and effectively forced update proved to me that Google owned the
> phone, not me. I was simply allowed to pay them to hold and use it for their
> easy spying on me.
> 
> Nope, I won't have another smartphone until there is a Linux smartphone. And
> I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.
> 
> Lucius L. Hilley III - Unkmar
> 
> 

OT: Long Post: Smartphone rant (Take 2?)

From: Unkmar 
------------------------------------------------------
It's dead Jim:
Well, it happened.  My last smartphone has died.  Accidentally entered pool
with my phone in my pocket.

Linux or bust:
Last smartphone!  Multiple reasons, yet it all boils down to I want a Linux
smartphone or not at all.  I should own the phone if I bought it,
especially at $300.

Next Phone:
So, My next phone will at best be a candy bar simple feature with full
qwerty keyboard.  Otherwise, a candy bar 12 pad.  I refuse to do the slider
or sideways keyboards.  I'll be looking for the following features,
moderate camera resolution, and SMS.  I don't need GPS.  I don't need to go
places I don't already know or someone I'm with doesn't already know.  You
can find me with your fancy phone if your seeing me is that important to
you.  Or vacations, I can rent a GPS.  Can't be rented?  Okay, buy and
return within 2 weeks.

Samsung Note: (TouchWiz mess)
A few years back, I bought the Samsung Note.  Not the Note 2, 3, 4... ad
nauseum.
I promptly roo....  Nope, Can't do that without attaching to a computer.
Okay, so I promptl... Nope.  Trying to do it in Linux was a fight in
futility.  So, I handed my phone to another geek friend and he rooted the
phone for me.  He waited on Winders to install some drivers, installed a
debugging thing.  Downloaded and installed Android SDK stuff.  Well, went
through all kinds of crap and got it rooted.  By in large, I liked the
phone and features.  I didn't like TouchWiz. So I tried a couple of
different launchers and settled on Nova because of its stability and
features.  I feverishly played with and programmed that phone off and on
for 6 months.  Then I started hitting walls.  Lots of walls.  Had plenty of
wiggle room to do lots more things I'd like and better round out many of
the Tasks I'd created using Tasker.  However, some things just didn't
report properly.  Some things just weren't accessible.  Some where
unreliable.  I had out grown the phone in under 6 months.  I stopped most
all development with the phone because I had outgrown it.  It could no
longer keep up with my desires and demands.  And I couldn't simply code my
way out of it either.  Sure, I did code my way around many things.  Others
simply weren't to be had.  Other people were forging ahead with newer
Android versions.  I was held back by Samsung on an old KitKat.  I made
several attempts to download the update.  In hindsight, I am very glad it
failed. (Explained in Nexus 5)  Phone eventually died and I went without a
smartphone for a few months.

Nexus 5: (Not a utopia)
I dreamed and imagined that getting closer to Google would release many of
my Samsung struggles.  I was wrong.  I started up my phone and started
getting this eerie tickling feeling I was being watched.  For the first
time, I was really starting to feel the phone wasn't mine.  You MUST have a
Google account to use this device. Yes, this was the case in the previous
Android as well.  Somehow, in my excitement I had overlooked it.  That
enthusiastic excitement was now gone.  I was starting to get the feeling
that "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a cour..".
Sorry, I think you get the idea.  If not. "I WAS FEELING STALKED!"  So, I
am signed in again.  After all, I already have an account. Now I proceed to
root my phone.  Nope! Again, I must attach to a computer, install drivers,
install debugger, (ADB - Android Debug Bridge), install 3rd party
questionable rooting software specifically for your type of phone. And even
at that, it really needs to be Mac or Windows.  Easiest when you use
windows.  (grumble, grumble, windows, virus target, $$Mac$$, Closed off)  I
like Linux, I hate others!  Hey, I respect the others in their own right.
I do understand some of the struggles and efforts required in order to
create and maintain a robust OS.  Respecting the work doesn't mean I have
to like the results of the labor.  Back to the phone.  I had the phone
rooted for me.  Now, for the first time I can compare phones.  Note versus
Nexus, I can do what I couldn't and can't do what I could.  I won't bother
going into a phone by phone comparison of features.  I couldn't transfer
most of my previous settings over, for several reasons.  One was because I
now had a different launcher, default Google Launcher.  I was thinking, the
Google Launcher and the Siri like feature was cool.  Ok Google, Listen to
everything just in case I might say "Ok Google".  This left me with yet
another big brother feeling.  I enabled and played with it, then disabled
within a few hours.  Eventually Google provided the option to update to
Lollipop.  Yay!, I'll wait a few days to see what others say and I don't
have time to fix anything that might break right now.  Pop, Nag, update
ready, "Yeah, I'll get to it. Leave me alone!"  Pop, nag, update ready.  Um
wait, how often is this going to happen.  Pop, nag.  Google?!?
Pop, nag.  This is annoying and affecting my Data usage!  Pop, nag.  And I
can't shut it off anywhere.  Pop, nag.  My battery is being drained heavily
because the update is constantly running and routinely checking Google for
the update, About half the life it use to be.  Pop, nag.  Okay, I'll update
just to stop the battery drain. Besides, it is a weekend and I have time to
deal with any problems.  Arrgghhh!!!   That white background!  That is so
freaking ugly?  Crap, wait!  What?  Ugh, Just because Apple thinks White is
the new black.  Argh, it is so garishly ugly and default for everything.
Well, here comes Nova Launcher to the rescue, partly.  Freaking Settings
menu and many default menus still have this horrible theme that I can't
change.  Oh well.  So, wait!  Uh, I'm not rooted anymore!  What?  Damn it,
This is MY PHONE!  I guess that is what I get for thinking.  Uh, can you
hear me now...!!!  Phone dead.  I have no cell service.  Oh, there it is
again.  Okay. I programmed it to say, "Signal Lost"  every time it went
down and "Service Acquired" when it came up.  That was happening a lot.
Generally about twice an hour, sometimes more,  sometimes less.  In
addition, it would do it after nearly every call ended.  I changed the
messages to "Lost", "Found".  And setup logging of every incident and
signal strength at the time to a file.  I changed the messages again to a
comical, "I once was lost", "But now I'm found" and "Of all the things I
ever lost", "I missed my mind the most".  I had it randomly pick between
those message pairs. I never did root the phone again.  I Went through
another nag update cycle and still the cell service problem remained.  I
Reported the problem to Google and nothing has come of it.  The nagging and
effectively forced update proved to me that Google owned the phone, not
me.  I was simply allowed to pay them to hold and use it for their easy
spying on me.

Nope, I won't have another smartphone until there is a Linux smartphone.
And I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.

Lucius L. Hilley III - Unkmar

Android-based fitness tracker

From: John Aldrich 
------------------------------------------------------
I purchased an android-based fitness 
tracker off Alibaba. Unfortunately I 
was never able to get it to sync up 
with my phone and ended up buying a 
real FitBit. Anyone wanna play with 
this and see if they can get it to work 
or hack into it??? :)

Nexus 5 signal drop

From: Unkmar 
------------------------------------------------------
Aggressive conservation of battery?

These are the times my phone has lost and reaquired cellular towers. In
most all cases the phone had 3 to 4 bars and is stationary on my desk home.
I'm using a StraightTalk SIM. The drops have become much more frequent
since the update to Android 5.1.

The times are automatically recorded by a tasker app I created.

05-03-2015 17.32.54, Signal found
05-03-2015 17.38.35, Signal lost
05-03-2015 17.39.24, Signal found
05-03-2015 17.51.32, Signal lost, -1
05-03-2015 17.52.21, Signal found, -1
05-03-2015 19.20.36, Signal lost, -1
05-03-2015 19.20.58, Signal found, -1
05-03-2015 19.35.32, Signal lost, -1
05-03-2015 19.36.22, Signal found, -1
05-03-2015 19.49.44, Signal lost, -1
05-03-2015 19.50.5, Signal found, -1
05-03-2015 20.02.12, Signal lost, -1
05-03-2015 20.03.1, Signal found, -1
05-03-2015 23.47.52, Signal lost, -1
05-03-2015 23.48.13, Signal found, -1
05-04-2015 00.00.18, Signal lost, -1
05-04-2015 00.01.9, Signal found, -1
05-04-2015 00.13.15, Signal lost, -1
05-04-2015 00.14.6, Signal found, -1
05-04-2015 00.41.30, Signal lost, -1
05-04-2015 00.41.52, Signal found, -1
05-04-2015 00.48.41, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 00.49.16, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 01.01.22, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 01.02.12, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 01.14.19, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 01.15.9, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 01.27.16, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 01.28.6, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 01.40.13, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 01.41.3, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 01.53.22, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 01.54.13, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 02.06.18, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 02.07.10, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 02.28.15, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 02.29.5, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 02.46.37, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 02.47.27, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 03.04.49, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 03.05.39, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 03.18.14, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 03.19.5, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 03.32.13, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 03.33.3, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 03.46.38, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 03.47.28, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 04.03.17, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 04.04.8, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 04.16.42, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 04.17.34, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 04.29.40, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 04.30.30, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 04.48.12, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 04.49.2, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 05.01.8, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 05.01.59, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 05.19.40, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 05.20.30, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 05.37.11, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 05.38.1, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 05.50.7, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 05.50.58, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 06.03.27, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 06.04.18, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 06.16.51, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 06.17.42, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 06.44.50, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 06.45.40, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 07.10.54, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 07.11.44, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 07.24.16, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 07.25.6, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 08.56.53, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 08.57.15, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 09.19.3, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 09.19.55, Signal found, 0
05-04-2015 10.05.11, Signal lost, 0
05-04-2015 10.05.33, Signal found, 0

Fwd: Chuga-get-together

From: Jonathan Calloway 
------------------------------------------------------
Hello!

Not sure if anyone has seen this yet.  It looks like Thursday night will be "=
The Night" at this point.

I like Terminal Brew House.  However, I'm counting on you guys to chime in w=
ith other ideas of watering holes that I probably have never been too, much l=
ess thought about.

I'm thinking 6-ish at this point. . but I'm flexable.

Jonathan Calloway

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jonathan Calloway 
> Date: April 19, 2015 at 2:19:58 AM EDT
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group =

> Subject: Chuga-get-together
>=20
> Greetings!
>=20
> As some of you know, I have been working a third shift operations type job=
 now for a year.  This means that I have not been able to attend any Chugalu=
nches or other CHUGALUG events. =20
>=20
> However, this week (4/20-4/24) I will be doing some training in the day ti=
me.  I would like to call a "Chuga-get-together" for one evening this week.
>=20
> Now, I know what the rules are. . . you call the event, you pick the time a=
nd place.  However, as chairman of this event, I would like to open this to t=
he floor for suggestions, so that everyone has the opportunity to chime in o=
n time preferences and places (Besides, you guys always come up with interes=
ting places I haven't heard of before).
>=20
> My only requirements are that it has to be in the evening (after 5PM) and i=
t has to be at a place where adult beverages can be consumed. =20
>=20
> I'm looking forward to seeing you all again!
>=20
> Jonathan Calloway

OT maybe: advice wanted on particular Android phones.

From: rdflowers 
------------------------------------------------------

I have run into a $20 ZTE Whirl2 deal around here. I also got a $35  
for a Moto E and a month service included, if I use my existing #.

The ZTE runs Android 4.3 .

This Moto E runs Android 5.0 .

I would appreciate any insight and experience related to these phones,  
and especially regarding rooting them, and regarding developing apps  
for them ( especially if it can be done not-in-java, but even if it  
must be -- python 3 would be ideal ).

Can one or both be rooted/developed on -- without major risk of bricking them?

Also, and finally, what Android simulators do any of you fine folks like?


I ( because of $ ) don't have email access except at the library, but  
I get here every couple of days or so. Phone or text anytime would be  
great ( 423 653-9715 ), and would increase the appreciation points  
even further, and would be quicker. Either deal could go away soon,  
but especially the Moto E.

Search engining eats my limited access time very quickly, or I would  
do that more instead of asking.


Thanks for any help you can give me !
--
R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA
http://chalice.us/poe/



air console

From: Mike Harrison 
------------------------------------------------------
Finally got around playing with the air-console from:

http://www.get-console.com/

It’s obviously a micro linux-ish server with a battery, 

It sets up a small Wifi network without a default gateway. Then you can telnet to: 192.168.10.1 port 3696
and ‘poof’ you have serial. Nice little apps for iOS and Android as well. or at least the getSerial Android app worked on my phone, I reset my office UPS via serial.. 

Extra’s: It also provides a small Wifi AP, and can be used to charge up other devices in an emergency. 

Got a few harder things to do with it... but so far: I’m impressed.


 

OT: Which tablet?

From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com
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Hello there:
I need the tablet with the biggest screen (Android or Mac) that can be 
visible in direct sunlight as well as dim(able) to the point of being 
visible under *VERY* low light without blinding brightness. 

This is the test for brightness:
Stay in a totally dark room for an hour and then turn the tablet on.
If you get a barely uncomfortably blinding screen, it is too bright.
Price unimportant, I hope that I don't have to go Mac, but my Android phone 
hasn't had a shining performance either...   :(
Thanks!
ET

Forked from "Android without Google" - Office Depot Chair

From: DaWorm 
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Lynn,

Didn't want to threadjack the "Android without Google" topic:

What model chair did you find at Office Depot that would be a good
substitute for an Aeron?

Jeff.

Android without Google?

From: James Nylen 
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I'd like to run my Android phone without any proprietary Google services,
or as few as possible.  I want control over what servers my phone is
sending data to, and why.  Is anyone doing something similar?
Here's what I've got so far:

Most custom ROMs (Cyanogen, AOKP) separate the google apps installation
from the main OS, so you can just skip that step.

The number 1 thing I miss with this setup is Google Maps.  Right now I have
an old version that I saved and restored using Titanium Backup
.  Number two is probably YouTube,
I have it set up the same way.  Most of YouTube's network requests flow
through Android system processes, which is a little scary to me.

For contact and calendar syncing to my server I use OwnCloud
, and for media syncing Titanium Media Sync
.

F-Droid Marketplace  works pretty well as a Google
Play alternative for FOSS apps.  There are a couple of potential solutions
for grabbing apps from the Play Store without having it installed:

   - https://github.com/egirault/googleplay-api
   - http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/

There's also NOGAPPS
 which was a
project to stub out some of the Google frameworks that many apps depend on,
but it looks mostly discontinued.
Thoughts?

Chugalug Digest, Vol 31, Issue 81

From: "Kite, Mike" 
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Thanks Lynn and Meuon.

Putting a pipe between domain and user bears the same bitter fruit :(

It's an OEL6 server, which I think, is pretty close, in this case, to RHEL6.

It does indeed have the return code -6 in /var/log/messages when trying to CIFS mount it.
And I may as well just keep trying smbmount rather than smbget, simply because I'll need to put files there as well as get them.

I'm trying to find the Red Hat article you mention, though this machine does not have a  /etc/request-key.d/ folder.  I do have a Red Hat portal account, I'm trying to recover my pwd to that now.

Thanks
mkite


Chugalug Digest, Vol 31, Issue 67

From: Andrew Armstrong 
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On 2/19/15 7:00 AM, chugalug-request@chugalug.org wrote:
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:12:03 -0500
> From: Donald Humphreys 
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
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> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] cleaning house before a move
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> I'm interested in the PDU (not a UPS by the model number?) and MAYBE that
> 4600. What is that, 6U? Can you provide some more specs?
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Stephen Kraus 
> wrote:
>
>
You are correct it is a PDU and not a UPS. Thanks for pointing that out. 
I had a 1U UPS that looked exactly like this and mixed up the 2 in my 
head. I actually am going to keep the PDU as I have a use for that. 
Sorry for the misleading information guys.

Donald, RE: the 4600 - I sent you a direct email about it.

-- drewcifer

2-in-one laptop / tablet and *nix

From: Jonathan Calloway 
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Greetings!

I’m toying around with the idea of getting a 2-in-one tablet / laptop.  The idea would be to get more experience with Android, and maybe even Ubuntu Touch.

I’m looking around at ASUS Transformer books.  I’m seeing some of the early ones out there for $200-$300.  If anyone out there is doing something like this, or even if you have something you’re willing to sell, let me know.

Now, let me explain that it has to be a keyboard base with a teachable tablet form factor.  I am not looking for a “flip” or yoga style device.  Also, it has to be something I can play with, i.e. install android or linux of some variety.  

Thanks!



Chugalug Digest, Vol 31, Issue 6

From: Justin McAteer 
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Justin McAteer




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