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Distribution experienced opinions

From: Unkmar 
I prefer stability over new features.

Debian: (My favorite)
  I use the stable version, so it is always behind the times. The install
is incredibly versatile.  Easy to follow the guide for a once size fits all.
When you don't know what something means, just take recommended
or hit Enter.  If you want a light weight server, easy enough to figure out.
You wan't a very light weight install and then extremely minimal Desktop
enviroment, sort of like a ChromeBook. That is also pretty easy to do.
The default Desktop install is gnome3.  I've tried it, I mean seriously
tried it for over a month.  I hate it.  Seriously, I hate gnome3. I
use LXDE. Wait, I'm getting side tracked.  Eh, I like Debian, everything
after that is me nitpicking packages and settings.

Red Hat:
  I used it so long ago I don't remember what it was like.

Mandrake: (Now Mandriva)
  My first experience with Linux that I can actually recall.
My thoughts at the time, Linux is almost ready to replace Windows on the
Desktop.  When they get it together and finish some things up, I'll switch.
(I didn't know. I thought of Linux as a smaller version of Microsoft but
up among a few groups. Maybe 5. I had no idea of the true scope of

Ubuntu: (My first REAL use of Linux)
  It was and is great. I didn't like its instability so I moved to its
parent, Debian.
I still sometimes use a Live Ubuntu CD because Debian doesn't do that.
(A third party provides a Debian Live CD option that has never worked for

  The install had a learning cliff, No curve.  I didn't get far enough to
the actual distro.

  I hate the long compile time for installing anything. I prefer to date
before marriage. That compile time feels like a serious commitment.

  Feels like a toy.  Honestly, it is a wonderful tool but the install feels
like an infection.  It is a light weight distro.  Has a light weight
Has no method of making it fat even if you prefer a few bells and whistles.
You can't choose partition sizes or anything. (Puppy would make a great
recovery install for if something goes horribly wrong. Oh, wait!  Most
already have that as a reasonable built in option. What was puppy for
Oh, It is a great small distro that boots into RAM from CD where you can
then remove the CD and use the drive to burn other CD's if you wish.
Many other tools available, That is just the one that stuck in my mind.

Red Hat:
  Um, just no!  My dislike of Red Hat has been strong enough for me to
effectively wipe my memory of exactly why.

Tiny Core:
  Oh great spaghetti monster.  Please take it back from where it came.
Um, it lives up to its name. It is Tiny and merely a Core.  You get to
for a few minutes to get networking so that you can download anything.
It has a quirky package management system (PMS) that you must learn
to in order to do anything. Here is a list of somethings don't get until you
use the PMS, web browser (GUI or CLI), partitioning tools.  Actually,
how about I list what you do get. The ability to move the mouse around,
point, click.  Possibly a CLI so you can run ls, head, cat, and more.
I'm pretty sure that less is missing until you PMS it.  I don't know if it
even has nano, pico, or vi without the PMS.  Seriously, it is a Tiny Core.

Derivatives: (I generally avoid them)
  Reasoning: Fixes to the problems lag behind the parent.
Find a problem, and a fix in the parent.  You constantly use the parent as
a guide on how to fix the child problems and sometimes that doesn't work.
Then you are left with a child that has the problem, can't find a fix
so few are using, reporting, and supporting the child. You are sort of left
in the cold.

Thanks FOSS

From: Matt Keys 
Here's Jack before the injury ..


and after ..


OT: Thanks FOSS

From: Matt Keys 
This week I was playing catch with my dog Jack in the back yard as I normal=
ly do. Throw a tennis ball, he runs to catch it and usually jumps to catch =
it mid-air. He brings it back and we do that over again until he's tired. I=
 also have movies of him playing "soccer" with his "brother" using a giant =
kong ball if you guys want to see that. It's pretty funny.

This week he landed weird on one of those throws. He collapsed as soon as h=
is rear paws hit the ground. Long story short and $1400 in vet bills later,=
 he's got a condition called canine FEC ( http://www.petmd.com/dog/conditio=

US Military Uses 8-Inch Floppy Disks To Coordinate Nuclear Force Operations

From: Rod-Lists 
where the hell do they get 8" floppies? Ed's stockpile?
'An anonymous reader writes from a report via CNBC:
A new report reveals the U.S. Defense Department is still using 8-inch floppy disks in a computer system that coordinates the operational functions of the nation's nuclear forces. The Defense Department's 1970s-era IBM Series/1 Computer and long-outdated floppy disks handle functions related to intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear bombers and tanker support aircraft, according to the new Governmental Accountability Office report. The report shows how outdated IT systems are being used to handle important functions related to the nation's taxpayers, federal prisoners and military veterans, as well as to the America's nuclear umbrella. "Federal legacy IT systems are becoming increasingly obsolete: Many use outdated software languages and hardware parts that are unsupported," the report found. "Agencies reported using several systems that have components that are, in some cases, at least 50 years old."

From the report: "GAO pointed out that aging systems include the Treasury Department's 'individual master file,' which is the authoritative data source for individual taxpayers. It's used to assess taxes and generates refunds. That file 'is written in assembly language code -- a low-level computer code that is difficult to write and maintain -- and operates on an IBM mainframe,' the report said." The report also mentioned that several other departments, such as the departments of Treasury, Commerce, Health and Human Services and the Veterans' Administration, "reported using 1980s and 1990s Microsoft operating systems that stopped being supported by the vendor more than a decade ago." '


Sad news - the passing of John Mullinix

From: Mike Harrison 

> On May 25, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Phil Sieg  wrote:
> Some of you may have known John. He was a friend and an important part of our business infrastructure.

So long John, and thanks for all the fish.