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Ping: Jason Brown

From: Cameron Kilgore 
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Don't wanna nag, but i'm ecstatic by the opportunities this hackerspace
presents. How are things on the incorporation/egroupware front?

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ Jason set up a google group for starters.. Which works. :)

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ I'm guessing that's off-limits for the time being. No problem, just as long as our ideas are reviewed on thursday.

=============================================================== From: Jason Brown ------------------------------------------------------ Groupware is sucking, eGroupware does not have what we need. I sent you an invite to a google group for now (yesterday I think?). --Jason

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ Jason, I never got the invite. I even checked the spam folder. Can you re-send it?

=============================================================== From: Joshua Estes ------------------------------------------------------ Don't feel bad, I never got an invite either =( - Joshua Estes http://www.ScenicCityLabs.com http://www.ChattanoogaDevelopers.com @JoshuaEstes @ScenicCityLabs @ChattDevelopers "If you live periods of your life in misery, when you remember back to those times, all you'll remember is the misery. The misery robs you of great memories you could otherwise be making."

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ I did not get an invite. Can I have one please? -AW send it? : invite to a google group for now (yesterday I think?). resents. How are things on the incorporation/egroupware front?

=============================================================== From: Jason Brown ------------------------------------------------------ Sent. (was waiting on your contact email, just been feeding those in).

=============================================================== From: "Lucius L. Hilley III" ------------------------------------------------------ Which I haven't signed into yet because of my aversion to Microsoft 2.0 the Google version.

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ I wish I could participate, it would be a real honor to be a member of a truly innovative group of Hackers, but my company wants to own my every thought/invention, and I do not want to jeopardize Hackerspace with my involvement, either by accidentally introducing a company-owned idea into Hackerspace, or by bringing a Hackerspace hatched idea into my company for them to profit off of (works both ways) There once was a man who went to a computer trade show. Each day as he entered, the man told the guard at the door: "I am a great thief, renowned for my feats of shoplifting. Be forewarned, for this trade show shall not escape unplundered." This speech disturbed the guard greatly, because there were millions of dollars of computer equipment inside, so he watched the man carefully. But the man merely wandered from booth to booth, humming quietly to himself. When the man left, the guard took him aside and searched his clothes, but nothing was to be found. On the next day of the trade show, the man returned and chided the guard saying: "I escaped with a vast booty yesterday, but today will be even better." So the guard watched him ever more closely, but to no avail. On the final day of the trade show, the guard could restrain his curiosity no longer. "Sir Thief," he said, "I am so perplexed, I cannot live in peace. Please enlighten me. What is it that you are stealing?" The man smiled. "I am stealing ideas," he said. -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming"

=============================================================== From: Aaron Welch ------------------------------------------------------ Umm... That is not cool. I do not think they can legally "own" anything you= do at a time when you are not scheduled and paid to work. =20 -AW ruly=20 them=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 lf. =20 =20 =20 =20 ven =20 =20 =20 ive =20 =20 =20

=============================================================== From: "Lucius L. Hilley III" ------------------------------------------------------ I saw a non-compete written that way once. I DECLINED employment.

=============================================================== From: wes ------------------------------------------------------ They certainly can legally do this. It's not particularly enforceable in most states, dunno about TN. It's a civil matter, so in a practical sense, whoever has the money makes the rules. -wes

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ I heard non-competes were weaker in "right to work" states. Anyone got any info on that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "wes" To: "CHUGALUG" Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:46:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Ping: Jason Brown They certainly can legally do this. It's not particularly enforceable in most states, dunno about TN. It's a civil matter, so in a practical sense, whoever has the money makes the rules. -wes Umm... That is not cool. I do not think they can legally "own" anything you do at a time when you are not scheduled and paid to work. -AW

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I took employment with a company that had a nasty non-compete agreement about 5+ years ago. Took me two years to find employment where I wasn't breaking that agreement. They were pretty aggressive about pursuing violators too. Glad I got out of that gig. Basically you couldn't take a job anywhere that had an office that could compete with the company at any level within a 75 mile radius of the city or have ever been a customer... Considering they were trying to do everything in IT from development to complete outsourcing to sales it made it darn near impossible... but I did it and I'm the wiser for it as I know that will the the last job like that I take if I can help it. -B

=============================================================== From: Cameron Kilgore ------------------------------------------------------ Fascinating. Tell me, where on earth was this company located at?

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ You should have been able to fight that one -- the one thing the right to work states have is that little clause about the previous employer not being able to prevent you from making a living. If you live in Chattanooga and work with anything that's not entirely your company's own product, it's kinda hard for a tech non-compete to stand up around here. Witnessed three of those attempted in the past year. It was a hassle on the old employees, and did cost some money to deal with, but the non-compete did not hold up. The employer kinda looked like a jack-ass going to clients and asking who solicited who, and would they come testify. Regards, dtb

=============================================================== From: Tim Waggoner ------------------------------------------------------ I wasn't able to attend the meeting but would love to be involved. I have a small RFID company and could really use some good developers from time to time. Tim W.