EPB Running Cat5 in homes for gig service??

From: David White 
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I just moved and had a technician come out to do the EPB install (actually
he's still here as there might be a problem with the ONT).

He tried to tell me that you don't need Cat6 for sustained gig speeds and
that the standard EPB install, regardless of the speed you get (I ordered
the 100mb, so don't much care).

This doesn't sound right to me. I am surprised EPB isn't using Cat6 from
the fiber handoff to the RJ45 jack, especially for 1gb orders.

Thoughts?

=============================================================== From: Andrew Rodgers ------------------------------------------------------ Most modern hardware can maintain 1Gb across all but the longest, kinkiest CAT5e runs. CAT6a is future proof for short 10Gb currently, and more than likely they'll discover a way to keep 10Gb up across full 100 meter runs. Andrew Rodgers GIGTANK 2014 Technologist-in-Residence 256-508-7610

=============================================================== From: John Alcock ------------------------------------------------------ I am sure someone can google this and find the exact specfications. IEEE 802.3ab is the standard for Gig over copper. The standard states that CAT 5 or CAT 5e as long as the run is not over 100 meters. That of course is assuming good craftmanship, etc. That being said, we have noticed no issues with CAT5e vs CAT6 here. THere is a price diffrence in cable as well as the ends, hence why most companies use CAT5e for now. John

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ The important delimiter is Cat5e

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 CAT5E is sufficient for 1Gb. Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT495aAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdsDwH/07cCMmXBw/VTcl+TkRXDEYA c5EHEhFSUsnMoZ8OXJFHLYKt49ic7xErvFNgnWmnzBczRoYRNV72k3aeyL90QDkm Q9UNpyyRNv5vPp5etrDh4Kkn2gqczP8REcHO91TVx02U1QIqJEuak5hxlqj9ohe9 Ly4J0QpR/Gm3LQd0j+W9rTrMo6zXf8/PiYADvksCihrG1sSWHQtPY8HwbB8PrcIT RuKcRickTRu/qNLQmFDiTsVJ9wTFFHqcELloklUaiw6rAIp0twxUXB2iy+k/or0k i1Gs711+C0Nqa+JLcNw/uddYe1Ow7YredvmLt/+yJvKPPmH6VFOOMlGzk0bTDlA= =YDjy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You can run 10Gb for a patch cable but I use CAT6A for even the shortest 10Gb Patch cables. They did, it's called CAT6A. Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT497qAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdOMYIAKW2k/lWlwjCYEeqP9Z28H2s fYqXfJ8fr5nqqXeT00u52tqRlR7KkfZfXLi6hTSgRBt93glXFFNKP3fEY4QfzIax iUsgRN68DBXlxs+ZXTcIXsgtY/WRpdh3E8P0Wo2h+ShseqcIxM4MYqwKwxpmtM6G U5WS542E9UvFJfV6vyYMeG44B1DroYbqqfFLUPO+D5/AdKXc3SVBCSeVTq7Ayfwa N5NALATyCjEb7GbA/8bfUw0XCq6pt7m+s/LiedSFwHcHyn17Ael06OHWxmDHwN3Z +N9c25gJ25h2l1o5wjhWlNHCdkNpBqm0rgAy+rga+uZ/ZVqZkPHNqWrewtmYbak= =grst -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: DaWorm ------------------------------------------------------ Why not send it over barbed wire? https://www.sigcon.com/Pubs/edn/SoGoodBarbedWire.htm Jeff.

=============================================================== From: michael pearson ------------------------------------------------------ I used to work as a sub for them. If you do get the gig make sure you press the issue when you're on the phone and they will change it or install it as cat 6. The cronies only have cat 5e but it is out there in the field, they just have to send the right guy . ;)

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Dave, Can you recommend a good distribution module or wiring panel for new construction? Rod ----- Original Message -----

=============================================================== From: Andrew Rodgers ------------------------------------------------------ I'm not Dave. I've been using these vertical racks like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001YHYVEY/ref=as

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=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Have you any recommendations for your own endpoint for utilities to tie into? Given that this is outside of Monteagle (bluff area) the incoming infrastructure is not as nice as we here. (Go epb!). Charter cable is the fastest net that I know of in the area. And phone is still traditional. But we are trying lay plans for when they catch up. ----- Original Message -----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pretty sure the utilities will dictate their own hand-off. In a perfect world, they'd terminate you 3-6 pairs of single-mode fiber with an optical patch panel. Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT5+dKAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcd9h4IAIuvwMf/0pW7lFxbyjklvaBy SeAyCc8oK8vbKfCoQYsn1DMj6d3zvLSlR+a2qhGr1t3E15M17GJlQ1UcrOuq80xA WRhyQpIrexkc026YmN+hGEjRuC0jX8L4VE/NSs3hkZ/bjurfOtA/7fFX35dWv6t4 mM0Dp3bFg71zGFksgvqwV6lktVcVFSmEenJSRtr0UTp8SYgC8ZhsZ6BVhPmmE7gH +JMtsOpJbvTxfafHsL22iYPm8/uhKmHG3A/BwdmlCUfTqsBKpBTXWuP8hUNzdMAq +0mNxEp6BYGYtxsPqa5KkpSxjdK+w3S/4EvnGp35RnqFNkfSfDv+Ib/x/ekb/3g= =//86 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Rod-Lists ------------------------------------------------------ Well I've heard a lot new upscale construction have been putting modules for cable phone and internet to tie into. And that they are designed so doesn't matter if your net is cable , dsl, or fiber. ----- Original Message -----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sounds like an expensive module to me, if it has to terminate (x)DSL, DOCSIS and Optics. Centralize all your wiring with home runs to a central wiring closet, and you can connect what you need where you need, and it won't matter if your net is DSL/DOCSIS/FIBER/WIFI/TIN-CAN. Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT6M5dAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdJTEH/3H0RsH9Vx3l2wmDuZWxk5UU FvpidN9JycWEdRm/REHfs+gNTagyJIaG+pxTR4D1OpSePLMzjIpQk2VXFQlXBDGZ s8VeInmlVc6rm3WMb0Mpbm0kHNMXFwe1vB3iUh+LfolIfx4DdvR+8xLdXSw9/wbb L8eBCanWHurPCYu2TVcl7Y6MsZpOqRQA1c8ttmGQFdspW6sWIYFRW4qTqxTEEDsi tPZogrvocN8ZF8+G1BHuIA7MmEJoGYkhSXP6UGSKvwon1vuOaE+TR1xxNq6GmKSY d7nLbuJ5felSF+rvyuWjVEUu8HGRsX0XxD9qVtUtnM2tz6o5TObnA7TGTvkKOho= =gT4J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----