Linux for kids

From: Flushy 
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I took an old P4 and installed Qimo on it last night.

Wow. Easy-peasy.

I had some generic off brand wireless Ralink pci card in it, and everything w=
orked out of the box. I only had to tweak a few things (explained below).

Qimo 2 is based on Ubuntu 10.10. The splash screens are very kid friendly, a=
nd the install messages were very informative (parents do the install).

The first thing you do is setup a parent login, which is just a normal ubunt=
u "admin" login (sudo access). I wish the installer highlighted that point m=
ore clearly as I ended up renaming the login to be me (after install) rather=
 than my son as I had assumed.

It comes with their skinned version of a desktop. It's probably XFCE or gnom=
e, but it's real identity is hidden so far. It's great for kids.

Parents can use that or the real XFCE Desktop. It's selectable upon login (l=
ike normal ubuntu).

It comes with lots of neat games that are all included with ubuntu, but what=
 I like is the Mac like launch bar at the bottom in the Qimo Desktop. It's v=
ery intuitive and my son knew exactly how to navigate it. The button icons a=
re large and readable.

I set it up so he has to select his name and type in his password. I figure h=
e should get used to using a computer in that way. The wireless networking s=
ecurity I setup beforehand.

Tweaks:

I created /tmp as tmpfs. One problem with making it noexec, nodev is that in=
itramfs create script breaks. I just have to remember to do a -o remount,exe=
c before running it. You'll have to edit fstab and reboot (or use lsof and t=
hen mount it):

[fstab]
none  /tmp  tmpfs  defaults,nodev  0 0
[---]

My dvdr either has a firmware bug, or it's something else. Basiclly I had ti=
meouts on bootup after libata scans my EIDE bus and tries to query the dvdr.=
 It keeps lowering the negotiation speed of that bus from UDMA/33 all the wa=
y down to PIO4 till it works. The install cd didn't have this issue. I solve=
d it by adding: libata.force=3D2.0:pio4 to grub (/etc/default/grub: Linux cm=
d line)

Next was installing the nVidia driver. Actually, I didn't do it - it ASKED m=
e if I wanted it. It made a huge difference in video performance as I'm gues=
sing my card wasn't fully supported by the open source driver.

In summary, I highly recommend Qimo for anyone with kids in elementary schoo=
l.

--b



=============================================================== From: Zach Gibbens ------------------------------------------------------ The developer really put an effort into Qimo, he uses a custom build of XFCE, and he uses jockey-gtk for the driver detection, same as ubuntu. It's definately worth trying for a kids distro everything worked out of the box. I only had to tweak a few things (explained below). and the install messages were very informative (parents do the install). ubuntu "admin" login (sudo access). I wish the installer highlighted that point more clearly as I ended up renaming the login to be me (after install) rather than my son as I had assumed. gnome, but it's real identity is hidden so far. It's great for kids. (like normal ubuntu). what I like is the Mac like launch bar at the bottom in the Qimo Desktop. It's very intuitive and my son knew exactly how to navigate it. The button icons are large and readable. figure he should get used to using a computer in that way. The wireless networking security I setup beforehand. initramfs create script breaks. I just have to remember to do a -o remount,exec before running it. You'll have to edit fstab and reboot (or use lsof and then mount it): timeouts on bootup after libata scans my EIDE bus and tries to query the dvdr. It keeps lowering the negotiation speed of that bus from UDMA/33 all the way down to PIO4 till it works. The install cd didn't have this issue. I solved it by adding: libata.force=2.0:pio4 to grub (/etc/default/grub: Linux cmd line) me if I wanted it. It made a huge difference in video performance as I'm guessing my card wasn't fully supported by the open source driver. school.

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Do you notice a difference in performance when you use that speed "patch" that was discussed previously for ubuntu? Might get some extra horses out of that old p4.

=============================================================== From: Zach Gibbens ------------------------------------------------------ I've looked at using tmpfs filesystems on some setups, it has it's uses, it seems to work well for bind9, not tried it on /tmp It might help with adobe flash, that's the only app I see using it frequently It's friendly, that install) login Desktop. button that use had all issue. I Linux ASKED