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VMWare Fusion or Parallels?

From: Jonathan Calloway 
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Greetings!

I just got a shiney, relatively new MacBook Pro as kind of an early Christm=
as present.  I always setup bootcamp because there are things I need Window=
s for.  In the past I=92ve used VMWare Fusion because I like being able to =
boot my BootCamp partition as a VM.  However, I understand this can be acco=
mplished with Parallels now.  =


So. . . VMWare or Parallels?

{I realize this is a *nix list, but the last time I was at a LUG event, I h=
ad the only non-Mac in the room.  Also, please note that the choices up for=
 discussion ore VMWare Fusion and Parallels, not VirtualBox or Quemu}

Thanks!



=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ I've been very happy with Parallels. I "feel" like it integrates with MacOS better than Fusion. But that's pretty subjective. If you are already a VMware fan, Fusion will be just fine. And there's also VirtualBox, which I've never tried on OSX but I've had good luck with on Ubuntu and Windows. -Eric -=3D--=3D---=3D----=3D----=3D---=3D--=3D-=3D--=3D---=3D----=3D---=3D--=3D-= =3D- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 ed able

=============================================================== From: David White ------------------------------------------------------ Mac is built on top of BSD, a unix OS. Tell me again why this is off topic? =3D) On Dec 19, 2013 5:47 PM, "Jonathan Calloway" wrote: ed able

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I use Fusion and it works really well on my macbook pro. I think between the two it will really just be your preference as I know they both work well. -B ed able

=============================================================== From: Wil Wade ------------------------------------------------------ Not to ignore the note that the discussion was not about VirtualBox, but I thought I would note where it was useful. Work provides me with a OSX box and I use VirtualBox on it. It works fairly well...If your needs are limited to testing stuff and would be using it less than say 3 hours a week. More than that and VirtualBox would drive you batty.

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ If other things in your life use VMware products, go VMware. I am using Parallels because of Eric's reccomendation, and I have to admit it seems to work very well, integrates with Mac's multiple screens, display drivers and window management very well. Am running VM's of Bodhi. Redhat and Centos, in in "full screen mode" feels like a real machine. I'm a very happy Parallels user.

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ I'm running ESXi server at home, and I often use the standalone converter tool to move vm's that I've made onto this 'server'. However, I did notice last night that it says that it will convert parallels images. This makes it even more difficult to choose!

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I believe you can get at least a free trial of Fusion if you just want = to try it out. In full screen mode it works just like you were sitting = at the machine and a 3-finger swipe allows you to flip between the full = screened VM and OSX. I believe that's how parallels does it as well.=20 I do know the Unity interface for Fusion is pretty neat, but I don't = really use it much. I think Parallels even has an equivalent version of = that as well. -B converter tool to move vm's that I've made onto this 'server'. However, = I did notice last night that it says that it will convert parallels = images.

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ I used to use Fusion but it seams like Parallels has made big strides in the= last couple of years. I think I'll do a trial of both. Sent from my iPhone ry it out. In full screen mode it works just like you were sitting at the ma= chine and a 3-finger swipe allows you to flip between the full screened VM a= nd OSX. I believe that's how parallels does it as well.=20 y use it much. I think Parallels even has an equivalent version of that as w= ell. tool to move vm's that I've made onto this 'server'. However, I did notice= last night that it says that it will convert parallels images.

=============================================================== From: Nick Smith ------------------------------------------------------ Im a fan of fusion, ive even played games full screen in a vm without a problem on my air, great hardware support. (half life 2, counter strike source, quake 4 etc) Unity is great, having shared folders was a nice bonus. I just wish it they would add the same functionality that workstation has, so you can connect to vsphere/vcenter and migrate machines to it. Never really used bootcamp, never wanted to partition my drive. Havnt tried out parallels in a couple years, but it does sound like they have made some major improvements. Back when i was trying out both, Fusion was alot better and less buggy.

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ Parallels has shared folders and "Coherence" which makes apps in hosted OSes behave like they are in OSX. I find that feature annoying so I never use it. I have had issues connecting a Win7 VM to my Epson printer. Because I rarely use that VM, I usually print to PDF via the shared desktop folder and then print to the printer from OSX. Both Parallels and Fusion have trials. I suspect the prices are similar as well. Tough choice! -Eric -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734

=============================================================== From: "Kite, Mike M" ------------------------------------------------------ I have to chime in on this one: VMWare Fusion is awesome. I have not tried recent versions of Parallels, but unless they=92ve added a= n equivalent feature to what VMWare Fusion calls =93Unity=94, then there=92= s no comparison, Fusion is better. Mike Kite Linux Systems Administrator University of TN Chattanooga

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ Fusion Unity =3D Parallels Coherence -Eric -=3D--=3D---=3D----=3D----=3D---=3D--=3D-=3D--=3D---=3D----=3D---=3D--=3D-= =3D- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 an s no

=============================================================== From: Jonathan Calloway ------------------------------------------------------ I=92ve partitioned using bootcamp because I want to have the option of = using the Corei7 and all 8GB of RAM in Windows if I need to. I have the = sphere client and converter installed in Windows. I can build an image = wherever i=94m at, and then convert it and place it on the esxi server = later. What I=92m ultimately looking for is the ability to boot my Windows = partition as a VM, as there are always instances in which I need to work = in an Office application, but do not want to boot into Windows. I=92m = also doing a lot of work with SharePoint these days. I=92m hosting that = environment on the esxi server. So far I=92ve had more luck using IE = with that than Safari mainly because the Silverlight plugging works = better for SP in IE than in Safari on OS X. a problem on my air, great hardware support. (half life 2, counter = strike source, quake 4 etc) has, so you can connect to vsphere/vcenter and migrate machines to it. they have made some major improvements. buggy. wrote: in the last couple of years. I think I'll do a trial of both. want to try it out. In full screen mode it works just like you were = sitting at the machine and a 3-finger swipe allows you to flip between = the full screened VM and OSX. I believe that's how parallels does it as = well.=20 really use it much. I think Parallels even has an equivalent version of = that as well. converter tool to move vm's that I've made onto this 'server'. However, = I did notice last night that it says that it will convert parallels = images.

=============================================================== From: Bret McHone ------------------------------------------------------ I believe both support booting your bootcamp partition as a VM. I do this all the time with fusion. -Bret On Dec 21, 2013 11:05 AM, "Jonathan Calloway" wrote: ing in oing on ari , o he d r ice