iPads for Everyone

From: Stephen Haywood 

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ Some local private schools have been doing it for 2 years... http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct/29/schools-adopt-computer-tablets/?print Would be interesting to hear them talk about the implementation, challenges, etc ------------------------------

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ can't find it @the moment but I read a recent article critical of iPads in school. Expensive distraction seemed to be the one the problems. To many other media on them to distract the kid from studying. On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:29:26 -0400, Ed King wrote:

=============================================================== From: Taylor McDonald ------------------------------------------------------ why is it that the schools are only getting 300 mps service? I thought that this was the gig city.

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ The article says "300 milligrams of wireless Internet access." This is never going to work. I'm not sure about the nicer schools like Normal Park, but most Hamilton County schools can't take advantage of existing technological resources, much less double or triple their investments. My wife had a fancy Promethean board for the 2012-2013 school year which never actually worked correctly. Also I did all of her equipment setup and reorganization, because there was no one else available to do it.

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ For those of us not in "Gig City" I can tell you that school can function just fine are far far far far less than 300 Mbit/s. *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Matt Keys ------------------------------------------------------ The new Saddle Ridge Elem down the road in Rock Spring did that. I heard they were giving 4th graders and above iPads to take home/school with them, the 3rd grade and below also have them but they turn them back in after class. : http://catwalkchatt.com/view/full

=============================================================== From: Tim Youngblood ------------------------------------------------------ Gimmicks and gizmos. Never has worked. Just a distraction from the lack of good teaching, parenting and studentship rampant today in the 'system.' The question is what is the goal here? If anyone is saying 'computer education' they need to wake up and get a clue. Something else to spend money on, that is what we have here. Swallowed whole by an uneducated generation of administrators, teachers and parents thinking a tablet is the magic bullet.

=============================================================== From: "Kite, Mike" ------------------------------------------------------ I enjoy my own iPad, but I think these would be a distraction for school ki= ds. I've been tutoring my 4th grade niece in math and her biggest problem = is being distracted during school. And Stephen's right, the security would be unwieldy to manage for organizat= ions without the funding or personnel to secure and maintain them. Sounds = weird from me though, thinking schools could use less technology. How about a VDI farm for schools so they could change out their lab environ= ments easily (like we see at Global Knowledge and other IT training compani= es)? I think that could cost less and perhaps provide more value. Mike Kite Linux Systems Administrator University of TN Chattanooga Send Chugalug mailing list submissions to chugalug@chugalug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to chugalug-request@chugalug.org You can reach the person managing the list at chugalug-owner@chugalug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Chugalug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. The questions we must be asking (Phil Shapiro) 2. Re: iPads for Everyone (Matt Keys) 3. HTML export from OpenOffice Impress works great (Phil Shapiro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Shapiro To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group Subject: [Chugalug] The questions we must be asking Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" The most valuable thing in education today is FART (For Art Restores Techno= logy). How can we make all students FART? How can we spread FART? These are= the questions we must be asking. phil -- Phil Shapiro, pshapiro@his.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html "Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates "Learning happens thru gentleness." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:32:37 -0400 From: Matt Keys To: chugalug@chugalug.org Subject: Re: [Chugalug] iPads for Everyone Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; Format=3D"flowed" The new Saddle Ridge Elem down the road in Rock Spring did that. I heard they were giving 4th graders and above iPads to take home/school with them, the 3rd grade and below also have them but they turn them back in after class. : http://catwalkchatt.com/view/full

=============================================================== From: Matt Keys ------------------------------------------------------ I used to work for a local BoE and had 3 schools I managed. Personally I think this is a step in the right direction. 2 of the 3 schools I managed had a really high percentage of low income households. Going to school was just about the only exposure those kids had to technology. This will open up a whole new world to them. This may sound like a politically incorrect cliche, but I found lot of those "at risk" kids had a general lack of respect for themselves, other people, and other people's property. I think trusting the kids to use the device freely may introduce a sense of personal responsibility to those kids and perhaps their parents. The flip-side being it will be really hard for those at risk families to face the consequences of ignoring that responsibility. I would rather the problem be identified and addressed at an early age rather than letting it go and the kid grow up to be a nuisance to society. I remember back then the state of GA was toying with the idea of blanketing the entire state with WiMAX by installing a tower at each college campus -- both technical colleges and 4 year universities. Maybe this is also step in that direction?

=============================================================== From: DaWorm ------------------------------------------------------ How do the airport terminal restaurant/bars that use iPads for ordering stations lock them down so that only the menu app is available? Could a "school" iPad be similarly limited so that only the educational apps/textbooks and selected websites are accessible? If that's the case, the distraction factor might be limited (as well as any incentive for the devices to "walk off"). Jeff.

=============================================================== From: Rod ------------------------------------------------------ That is the ultimate in overkill, using an iPad as a kiosk. I mean if going to use a tablet in a kiosk setting surely you provision cheaper androids. -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

=============================================================== From: DaWorm ------------------------------------------------------ Forgot which airport, but several restaurants had an iPad on every table. Had some sort of cable locked onto the data/charge port so it couldn't leave the table. Card swipe bar on box on table to pay with. Can't imagine what it cost, but there were hundreds of them. May have been Minneapolis-St. Paul.

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ I've seen/used this type of system a couple of times in airports, and once in a "normal" downtown business class resturaunt in Brazil, the best feature is the ability to see the menu and order food and pay in a bunch of languages. It's the perfect type of use for older iPads or limited Android tablets.

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ In a completely unrelated context... I found this today. http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/when-memorization-gets-in-the-way-of-learning/279425/ *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Tim Youngblood ------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for sharing. Great article.