Linux on Toshiba S75

From: Chad Smith 
Remember when we used to own the things we bought?

Man, good times.... good times.

*- Chad W. Smith*

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Pierce  wrote:

> I bought a Toshiba Satellite S75 today at Costco. Quad-core Intel i7, 16
> GB RAM and 1TB HDD. It came preloaded with Windows 8. I intended to wipe
> that crap off and install Linux. I can't believe how terrible Windows 8 is.
> Seriously.
> So, first off, I needed to update the BIOS to boot from a CD instead of
> the HD. I've done this like 10 bajillion time so I know what I'm doing,
> right? Ummm... usually there's like "Press F2 for Setup" thing but not on
> this one. And nothing in the manual about it. Oh wait, what manual?
> FINALLY, I figured out that part and was booting from a CD. Or so I
> thought.
> Turns out, they have a new "Safe Boot" thing where you can't boot from a
> CD or USB drive unless you turn all that off in the BIOS. I found a YouTube
> video that explained how to do that. Great, safe boot is off and I'm setup
> to boot from the CD.
> Boot up and get the Live CD or Install menu. Selected Live CD just to
> check things out and after a few seconds, the screen goes black and the
> laptop doesn't respond. Grrrrr.
> I'm going to return this machine and go for something that isn't trying to
> protect me from myself too much. Any recommendations? Dell's have pretty
> much always just worked for me. This is my first experience with Toshiba
> and I'm not happy.

=============================================================== From: Andrew Rodgers ------------------------------------------------------ This is your first experience with UEFI (

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ Lenovo have been good to me. They generally have better bios setups. Been interested in the Dell Linux ultrabook as well as the Pixel and Samsung's laptops, but Lenovo has been more in my price range when buying of late. Wil

=============================================================== From: Jon Stanford ------------------------------------------------------ I bought a laptop from System76 its fully customizable and cones with Linux out of the box. They make some great machines.

=============================================================== From: Andrew Pierce ------------------------------------------------------ I wanted to just buy a "commodity" laptop and run Linux on it like we used to be able to. I haven't bought a Windows machine in 10 years so I didn't realized how they'd F#%@'d things up as of late. Work provides me a Dell Latitude which runs pretty much any Linux flawlessly with no hokey UEFI crap. I had an IBM Thinkpad forever and it was solid as a rock. I might have to look at a Lenovo. But I've read where they generally have crappy displays. I'm sure you can spend more and get a better monitor. I've heard of System76 but never seriously considered. Sounds like I should.

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ Don't just jump on Microsoft for UEFI. Apple's been doing it as well. Of course, it's probably all an NSA plot... -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ System76 is not even close to competitively priced. And people chastise Apple for overcharging. Ubuntu doesn't cost System76 a dime - and that includes development costs (which Apple does have to pay someone to do). $995 and only 4 GB of RAM? lol - Just get a $199 Chromebook from Walmart. *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ I've gotten Red Hat, Ubuntu, and CentOS to work on UEFI fine, UEFI is just finicky. I will agree, its not really much of an improvement over BIOS...

=============================================================== From: ------------------------------------------------------ I beg to differ about 'system76 make pretty capable laptops, with drivers and such tested with Ubuntu.' They sold me a piece of crap that would no associate with any wireless AP and at the end virtually stole my 450 bucks'. Go another company. ET Andrew Rodgers writes:

=============================================================== From: ------------------------------------------------------ Go with another company... ET Andrew Pierce writes: