OT. Microsoft buys Nokia

From: David White 
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Listening to NPR right now. Wow.

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ It doesn't seem like a great move, I think that its just an attempt to offset Google's purchase of Motorla Mobility, which is silly because byond some interesting devices, Nokia has been circling the drain and the only real income Microsoft is getting from mobile products is fron licensing Android patents, and that is a questionable tactic. I think its just further proof that Steve Ballmet is circling the drain towards his retirement. Unless Microsofts mobile development team pulls of a miracle, this just seems like a way to maximize their patent prtfolio and nothing more.

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Obvious and expected, probably too late for both sides at this point though.... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSJlz5AAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdYCwH/2rz4iYgg4MUr8WDRFrcNRPs iwYLEnhB++Vz8riiOKGerqVP5kjHm+PU9JMpNLqyLei3Wge4fLKxbopNyTEJd1g7 cwoMVqDOT5udXh9moGhgiqiTgRkOaQSGF6PvOpe+TA5v+7RSEMKigPm5rLRa6PwV AM4NTj91T0wjHAmuVH+n5ojq0O9l69w/9MiKafts4C+R3wyUuzpc0eVP7XC7pH9E /CWQd0qzlRtimuQP9Wp+/3i6isAAszo2lj9pkj/Oe2b+szOXvl25+hthWFpGplCM IUbb9XNIMd+dZxYgqPp7sWkj0JXb8aiG76njywduip6AbJ75udFutE5AHWnglVw= =4Mdd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Eric Wolf ------------------------------------------------------ Microsoft is reporting a $4B increase in revenue in 2013 over 2012. I sure wouldn't mind circling that drain for a while. With the addition of Nokia, they are now larger than Google and Apple combined. Their revenue isn't as high as Apple's but now exceeds IBMs with less than half the workforce. One has to remember that Microsoft is in business to make money, not be the coolest company or even the most innovative. Number of Employees (via Wikipedia) IBM: 434,246 Microsoft: 97,000 Google: 44,777 Apple: 80,000 Nokia: 97,000 2012 Revenue (via WikiPedia): IBM: $106.9B Microsoft: $73B (2013 is up to $77B) Google: $50B Apple: $156B Nokia: $39B 2012 Mobile Units Shipped (via http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats/a#phone-shipments ) Samsung: 384.6M Nokia: 333.9M Apple: 130.1M ZTE: 67.3M LG: 58M ...etc... -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Can't wait to see those numbers for mobile units shipped this time next year. In 2012, Nokia supplied phones that ran OSes other than Win8. Regards, dtb Samsung: 384.6M

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ WTF people? I posted this more than 6 hours before David and no one says anything. Seriously, wtf. *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: William Wade ------------------------------------------------------ I would guess timing on when people got home from work might have something to do with that. Perhaps we should do an analysis of initial post time as compared to responses...

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I would wager that if one were to build a matrix of responders to new posts authored by specific individuals, your time would be better spent than analyzing post/response times. Some of us (I include Mike H and myself in this list) are apt to send list responses and new posts at the damnedest of times.... Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSJoV+AAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdW6wH/1Saok6NpXDzanVXWeLyqR78 SAh5SZtlZNI85zwWbKWtluIO1QB1z6dW2J6g1dRotv3YeleGganXJQ0ul/wFfFnm Yo0MTrzgy4qvQEUQ7FzeT0XN8hi8ccn/a+PAcltygq5Q7SgaWAo65fHb3Uh9OTPA hzfLJOWFASbiWrYF4UUOw14lnyxOXdqw//lV9ZM0am8XYFJ7zTR7n4ujkmsZzijQ soAf/z8USWIh0SW634QzV00PZaAkDyphJ4YmwFQTLe3bkKwZFnHmaQNwQAAHMAoO 6EMcMMI4Xa157LWvkmhdiNh0XE/fCIc2jnMbeQeRvpoSznSW6wpfwIQy2F66XWE= =vFG1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ This is pretty much what I am thinking. ::rolls eyes:: Mine even had links, you know, to actual information. *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ "post envy"=A0 ???=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A

=============================================================== From: William Roush ------------------------------------------------------ MY UPVOTES William Roush

=============================================================== From: David White ------------------------------------------------------ To be fair, If I had seen Chad's post first, I would've responded there. My brother and I were driving back to Chattanooga from Durham, though, and I just whipped out my smartphone as the NPR editorial finished up. :) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:18 AM, William Roush wrote: