Groklaw folds

From: Rod-Lists 
Tuesday, August 20 2013 @ 02:40 AM EDT

The owner of Lavabit tells us that he's stopped using email and if we knew what he knew, we'd stop too.
There is no way to do Groklaw without email. Therein lies the conundrum.

What to do?

What to do? I've spent the last couple of weeks trying to figure it out. And the conclusion I've reached is that there is no way to continue doing Groklaw, not long term, which is incredibly sad. But it's good to be realistic. And the simple truth is, no matter how good the motives might be for collecting and screening everything we say to one another, and no matter how "clean" we all are ourselves from the standpoint of the screeners, I don't know how to function in such an atmosphere. I don't know how to do Groklaw like this.

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ wow *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Tom Wilson ------------------------------------------------------ Such a depressing thing to see.

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ I want to highlight this passage everywhere: My hope was always to show you that there is beauty and safety in the rule of law, that civilization actually depends on it. How quaint. What separates law enforcement from criminals is that law enforcement is process and rules. Without that, law enforcement is just another gang that wears different colors. Dan

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ I think of the separation between law enforcement and criminals more as *actually giving a crap about the people the laws are meant to protect* (those of us without large amounts of money or other power). We have failed to hold our government accountable to this principle. With so many people having no idea how their computers or cars work, or how to create and stick to a budget, or what goes into the food they put on their table, and *caring more about what the Kardashians are doing than any of this*... it's no wonder we got to where we are today.