NewEgg scam

From: John Aldrich 
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So the "new" drive I bought from NewEgg was actually a used drive and  
it was originally sold as an external drive. This according to Seagate.

Yet another reason NOT to buy from NewEgg.

=============================================================== From: Ed King ------------------------------------------------------ meet the new egg same as the old egg

=============================================================== From: K I Goldman ------------------------------------------------------ We won't be fooled again* *until the next time. And thinking of hardware scams, if bit coin mining rigs cannot practically b= e repurposed, and you will theoretically make money off of mining, then why t= he heck would you sell them at all and not use the servers for your own mini= ng purposes? Just some trolling food for thought. Keith as originally sold as an external drive. This according to Seagate.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Ed King : Just got a reply back from my request that they re-open my case. Basically it was the same old BS "this is warranted by the manufacturer for 5 years and I'm sorry, but it's been more than 30 days since you bought the drive so we can't honor the warranty." (paraphrased) Of course, she conveniently forgets that I originally requested the RMA within the 30 day period. *sigh* I may end up having to sue them in small claims court. :(

=============================================================== From: Lynn Dixon ------------------------------------------------------ I love the bitcoin fear in the Chugalug threads!! :-) This fear is quite unfounded, and is approaching zealot level. I have made a sizeable profit from Bitcoin, in many ways. I have bought and paid for many products using BTC as my currency. I have even used BTC as a legitimate exchange medium to buy/sell foreign currencies. Having a decentralized currency that is far away from any government control (Im looking at you Federal Reserve) whose price is set purely by demand, is a superb idea. The supply of Bitcoin is highly controlled, only 6 blocks per hour are targeted for production, and that is why we have difficulty adjustments. The entire P2P network controls the algorithms, and no single individual or entity has control of it. I have avoided all of the other Bitcoin fear/hate threads simply because they seemed single-minded and a bit sensationalized. I was seriously waiting on some of those threads to spiral into someone saying its the "mark of the beast". But in all seriousness, I have been mining bitcoin for over 2 years now. I have made alot of money from my operations. I also have never meet a serious bitcoin miner that has LOST any money, and most of the serious miners I talk with have made huge returns, even it todays high difficulty. I have also meet alot of folks using the currency daily. I use it quite often. For those of you shouting "SCAM!!!" and generally spewing FUD, I say this: For the sake of all things intelligent, open your eyes and look at those of us whom are making honest returns, and genuine transactions using BTC. I leave this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scam I have made thousands upon thousands of transactions, trades, and exchanges using BTC as my currency. I have YET to be "scammed". My success rate is 100% at this point, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say of the times I have used USD for transactions, (PayPal, Craigslist, eBay, etc). To me, those thousands of transactions prove it to not be the definition of a "scam". With that being said, I will go back to reading and laughing at all those FUD and close-minded posts about Bitcoin. One would think that a LUG would be more apt to accept ideas such as Bitcoin more openly, being that Bitcoin is actually opensource. Lynn

=============================================================== From: Stephen Kraus ------------------------------------------------------ ....why did Bitcoin come up in a thread about Newegg Scams? Also: Lynn, please take no offense, but the whole 'I've made a huge profit from Bitcoins, it works for me' is literally what you will hear people say in pyramid scams. So, will they take the drive? Will they at least let you return for a refund? I've never had problems with Newegg, wonder what happened.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Stephen Kraus : Nope. NewEgg is claiming that I "damaged" the drive somehow, but have yet to explain what the "damage" was, beyond the superficial / cosmetic damage received from putting it into my computer. I have escalated from the CS peon who can only follow the script to their boss. Have to see what Ms. Yang says. For one thing, though, as I mentioned, Seagate says this was a USED drive and was originally sold as an external drive, apparently in a case. Someone, could have been NewEgg, could have been a customer, removed the drive from the case and NewEgg sold it as a "new" drive.

=============================================================== From: K I Goldman ------------------------------------------------------ My bad about bitcoin. Clearly if you got in early on and the price sky rock= ets you win. Just like Microsoft or Apple stock. My question is, is that if making money from mining is "guaranteed" from mer= ely investing in $20,000 in hardware that why on earth would a manufacturer n= ot use that hardware for their own use to make money? Clearly they think th= ere is more profit in selling the hardware than using it. This is not meant to be a "fear/hate" statement. It is meant to be buyer be= prudent. Previous performance does not guarantee future results. The "meet the old egg, same as the new egg" in combination with the recent b= itcoin talk just got me thinking about the "contact people that have mortgag= e insurance refunds and make money" from the '80s. If a scheme is sure-fire= to work than you are better off hiring people to do the work than selling t= he process. It seemed to me that bitcoin mining is the new version. I blame Ed! Well, maybe not. Just the Sun E350 got in my eyes! Keith On Aug 13, 2013, at 11:53 AM, "Stephen Kraus" wrote= : from Bitcoins, it works for me' is literally what you will hear people say i= n pyramid scams. nd? I've never had problems with Newegg, wonder what happened. nd paid for many products using BTC as my currency. I have even used BTC as= a legitimate exchange medium to buy/sell foreign currencies.=20 rol (Im looking at you Federal Reserve) whose price is set purely by demand,= is a superb idea. The supply of Bitcoin is highly controlled, only 6 bloc= ks per hour are targeted for production, and that is why we have difficulty a= djustments. The entire P2P network controls the algorithms, and no single i= ndividual or entity has control of it. hey seemed single-minded and a bit sensationalized. I was seriously waiting= on some of those threads to spiral into someone saying its the "mark of the= beast". I have made alot of money from my operations. I also have never meet a ser= ious bitcoin miner that has LOST any money, and most of the serious miners I= talk with have made huge returns, even it todays high difficulty. ften. : For the sake of all things intelligent, open your eyes and look at those o= f us whom are making honest returns, and genuine transactions using BTC. I l= eave this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scam =20 es using BTC as my currency. I have YET to be "scammed". My success rate is= 100% at this point, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say of the tim= es I have used USD for transactions, (PayPal, Craigslist, eBay, etc). To me= , those thousands of transactions prove it to not be the definition of a "sc= am". FUD and close-minded posts about Bitcoin. One would think that a LUG would= be more apt to accept ideas such as Bitcoin more openly, being that Bitcoin= is actually opensource.=20 : ly be repurposed, and you will theoretically make money off of mining, then w= hy the heck would you sell them at all and not use the servers for your own m= ining purposes? Just some trolling food for thought. e: t was originally sold as an external drive. This according to Seagate.

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ OK. I managed to explain the facts of life to the supervisor of the front-line RMA agent. She apparently didn't like the word "fraud" and has agreed to 1) refund my money and 2) pay for shipping the drive back to NewEgg. I just find it incredible that I had to go to all this hassle just to get them to stand behind what they sold me.