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Why is Firefox so busy?

From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com
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OK, I'll confess, I am a WEB site hoarder...
I find sites, open DOZENS of them, leave them open to 
read-them-later/use-them-for-something/show-it-someone-else/forgot-to-close- 
it, you get the drift... 

At any point of time I always have dozens of open pages, just sitting there. 

This morning, they were eating 50% of the power of EACH of my 4 cores...
Which bumped the processor temp to 53 degs C.
Doing nothing...
So I killed the flash plug-in (frequent culprit) to no avail... 

So I bit the bullet and 'kill $(FFOX

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ ET, I am guilty of the same behavior, with same results across 3 different = browsers, all on OS X machines. Initially I thought it was a Chrome = thing as there is no 64 Bit version for Mac's... But I have had the same = thing happen in Safari, and Firefox. My fix was to quit the browser an relaunch. Great minds think alike. Not much help other than to offer the info that it isn't necessarily a = Firefox thing, or even a Linux thing.... Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 read-them-later/use-them-for-something/show-it-someone-else/forgot-to-clos= e- it, you get the drift...=20 there.=20 cores...

=============================================================== From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com ------------------------------------------------------ Maybe we should create a support group... WHAT => Web Hoarders Anonymous Troop :) ET Phil Sieg writes:

=============================================================== From: Michael Scholten ------------------------------------------------------ Where do i sign up and do we need a minimum average of open tabs to apply? -Michael g to-close- pen wer t

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ What is the purpose of 16-32gb of Ram and lots of cores if not to have a = bazillion windows and pages open at all times? Duh! Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 On Jul 13, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Michael Scholten = wrote: apply? browsers, all on OS X machines. Initially I thought it was a Chrome = thing as there is no 64 Bit version for Mac's... But I have had the same = thing happen in Safari, and Firefox.=20 Firefox thing, or even a Linux thing....=20 with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."=20 read-them-later/use-them-for-something/show-it-someone-else/forgot-to-clos= e- it, you get the drift... At any point of time I always have dozens of = open pages, just sitting there. This morning, they were eating 50% of = the power of EACH of my 4 cores... bit the bullet and 'kill $(FFOX

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ Furthermore for Mac users, Expose (the ability to expose all of your = open windows on the desktop as a grid and click the one you want to use) = was the ultimate enabler. There truly is NO good reason for me to close = something if there is even a slight chance I might use it in the next = 3-6 weeks. Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 On Jul 13, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Michael Scholten = wrote: apply? browsers, all on OS X machines. Initially I thought it was a Chrome = thing as there is no 64 Bit version for Mac's... But I have had the same = thing happen in Safari, and Firefox.=20 Firefox thing, or even a Linux thing....=20 with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."=20 read-them-later/use-them-for-something/show-it-someone-else/forgot-to-clos= e- it, you get the drift... At any point of time I always have dozens of = open pages, just sitting there. This morning, they were eating 50% of = the power of EACH of my 4 cores... bit the bullet and 'kill $(FFOX

=============================================================== From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com ------------------------------------------------------ Man, this is worse than I thought, we *REALLY* need a support group! I'll talk to my therapist, I'm running low on Prozac anyway... ET Phil Sieg writes:

=============================================================== From: James Nylen ------------------------------------------------------ This is pretty much the reason I switched from Firefox to Chrome. The process-per-tab architecture really seems to help, but I still have to restart my browser occasionally due to memory and CPU issues. Also, this Chrome extension helps: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/controlled-multi-tab-brow/kokmfem= ecmlekdnjllgobeplngdfifie?hl=3Den n the g . to her en a ." to-close- pen wer t

=============================================================== From: Sudo Bash ------------------------------------------------------ Check out Pandora.com and see how it performs under Linux, it's pretty atrocious in any browser... emecmlekdnjllgobeplngdfifie?hl=3Den ) -6 .. s to ther ven a s." -to-close- open ower

=============================================================== From: Rip Linton ------------------------------------------------------ It is a memory issue. It has existed for as long as I can remember and is n= ot unique to Firefox. A lot of sites, Facebook is the worst, just continue = to consume more and more memory with every update they do. They do not rele= ase the memory until you close the browser and restart it. Just reloading t= he site does not do the trick. Closing those tabs and reopening them also d= oes not do it the trick on most browsers. You have to close the browser com= pletely and then restart it. This issue has existed since sites started updating themselves many, many y= ears ago. You would think that the browsers would handle it by now, But, th= ey don't. It was a lot worse when we had system memory that was measured in= kB and MB.=20 If you watch your swap usage, you can see what is happening. As the browser= takes more and more memory, the swaps start getting a lot more frequent un= til you start to see constant reads and writes to the swap going on. That constant I/O is what keeps the processor busy. Rip =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: kitepilot To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 8:42 am Subject: [Chugalug] Why is Firefox so busy? OK, I'll confess, I am a WEB site hoarder... I find sites, open DOZENS of them, leave them open to=20 read-them-later/use-them-for-something/show-it-someone-else/forgot-to-close= -=20 it, you get the drift...=20 At any point of time I always have dozens of open pages, just sitting there= .=20 This morning, they were eating 50% of the power of EACH of my 4 cores... Which bumped the processor temp to 53 degs C. Doing nothing... So I killed the flash plug-in (frequent culprit) to no avail...=20 So I bit the bullet and 'kill $(FFOX

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ The villian isn't having 50+ pages open in tabs and windows, the issues isn't even really JavaScript, although that's the big factor. The issue is web developers using insane amount of JavaScript (jQuery usually) in stupid ways attempting to do something kewl, slick or just out of ignorance. Add adaptive CSS techniques, loops to detect window location, sizes, attempts to suck data/cookies from other windows, advert trackers, scrolling advertisements and menu's.. It all adds up and causes CPU and memory bloat.