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Windows 8 Developer Camp, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM, Chattanooga, TN

From: Ed King 
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chugalug flash mob!!!!!!

hmmm, so Windows 8 is going to have a "Windows Store" (app store)...

How...   innovative



----- Original Message ----
From: Daniel L. Appleget 
To: CHUGALUG 
Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 8:09:49 AM
Subject: [Chugalug] Windows 8 Developer Camp, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 from 9:00 
AM to 5:00 PM,Chattanooga, TN

free

http://win8devcampchat-epop.eventbrite.com/?rank=6

-- Daniel Appleget
Chattanooga Computer Service
http://www.chattanoogacomputerservice.com/
423-760-0879

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito


=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ Bet Windows 8 won't be 19.99 for a full edition (what I just paid for OS = X 10.8). If it weren't for gaming and Quickbooks (The Mac edition is crap) I = would truly have no need for Windoze. Microsoft Office has been taking a = huge hit from Open Office (an other OS alternatives) and Google Docs = (Which we use here in my setup). Their new mobile OS, Windows Mobile has = arrived and is DOA. The thing is the Boys in Redmond made so much money for so long they = have deep pockets and might weather the storm... but I don't think = emulating Apple is the way to get back to greatness. I don't hate all things Microsoft, I just wish they would contribute = SOMETHING RELEVANT to the continuing digital evolution. Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 from 9:00=20

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Methinks MS is about to eff up on a larger than ME or Vista scale with 8/Server2012. Forcing Touch interface design on your keyboard and mouse desktop users (and don't forget us lowly admins!) can't end up in anything but Corporate users avoiding it like the plague. Actually, I can't wait to hear reviews from the sheeple this crud targets, I'm curious actually how a normal user will feel about the new interface... Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAzlTAACgkQABP1RO+tr2TBmgCgh0jmU/Pa8zRNaUDuGn/TMr+n rp8An3sZT+FYbLjo57y4p4RCQEehvqWp =DgGz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Buwahahaha! Sounds like you think MS actually innovated anything since the early 1980s.... Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAzldMACgkQABP1RO+tr2RbmgCePufVt3plAQwS30U3gIY1juOC VqEAmgNFjr5At0rXIdqG+6vLB+rrKE17 =Eucu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ No that was actually my point, they haven't. A lot of really bright people up there drawing paychecks for.... what? Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Dave Brockman : Wouldn't be so bad if there were some sort of "touch interface" for desktop users. :D Personally I won't be going there as I have no "touch interface" for my desktop machines! 'Course I'm not the intended audience either.

=============================================================== From: Benjamin Stewart ------------------------------------------------------ Actually, no. I'm testing it on a laptop with a touchscreen, and it's... dumb. For all the "simplification" and whatnot they're claiming, it comes across feeling pretty cluttered, to me.

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Really? Think about how much you type in a day... you would really want to "tap" all that out every day? Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAzoO0ACgkQABP1RO+tr2S0awCgpVsNiD5z2PZZC58GK5J1Gcmg lswAn2+npq3CO4pAbYtNdErXaht/ETsR =3ozK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Knowing how much time I lose if I have to take my hand off the keyboard and wiggle this rodent thing over here, and then re-orient my hand to the keyboard, I can only imagine tapping around to open a program has just got to be orders of magnitude more productive than either mouse or keyboard...... Regards, dtb - -- "Some things in life can never be fully appreciated nor understood unless experienced firsthand. Some things in networking can never be fully understood by someone who neither builds commercial networking equipment nor runs an operational network." RFC 1925 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAzoYEACgkQABP1RO+tr2TZEQCfa7nCd84fAlIKLCefFD54NulV s7MAn33jUo4wL3HvjJPV3K560B8YGbp2 =1yuT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

=============================================================== From: John Aldrich ------------------------------------------------------ Quoting Dave Brockman : Note, I never said it would be a *good* thing, just not so bad for the average user.

=============================================================== From: Chad Smith ------------------------------------------------------ I've never understood why laptops and desktops don't have touchscreens. I mean in 2012, the touchscreen technology is pretty great, and pretty cheap. I'm sure you can buy (haven't looked, admittedly) touchscreen monitors for desktops - but other than hacking in some USB-driven resistive screen overlay for your laptop monitor, there's really not much you can do to a laptop. *- Chad W. Smith*

=============================================================== From: Mike Harrison ------------------------------------------------------ A friend of mine just left MS for Amazon. he likes the area, and learned a lot from Microsoft. Mostly how a company can smother itself. On of his projects was doing some email application for the new Windows phones. His descriptions of the process control was a nightmare of technical and political empires. His comment about Amazon: They use "everything" whatever seems to be best for the job, and a lot of it is Linux. He's a serious C* guy as well as other things and says he is enjoying the transformation.

=============================================================== From: Dee Holtsclaw ------------------------------------------------------ ^^^ Still using quantum communications I see. Love how you always respond before the email is sent you're responding to ... ;) To return to topic, I think the whole crux of W8 is to try grabbing a slice of the developer's income by forcing use of the Windows App Store. I'm sure it's been chapping Ballmer's butt Apple can do it while they can't. And I agree completely WRT Steam on Linux. It's about time.

=============================================================== From: Dan Lyke ------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:53:41 -0400 Dee Holtsclaw wrote: To be fair, there are strong reasons for users and developers both to want this: For developers, it's an easy way to monetize your efforts, no finding a credit card processor, setting up an e-commerce site, dealing with anti-piracy technology, etc. For users, it's a way to avoid viruses and get software from known good places. Dan

=============================================================== From: Dee Holtsclaw ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah, but then there's stuff like this: http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=13456

=============================================================== From: Dave Brockman ------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To which I respond, and? Did anyone really think an app store will change the fact? The FACT: DRM does not work.

=============================================================== From: Phil Sieg ------------------------------------------------------ Ok so for whatever it is worth I will note the following in support of = Dan Lyke: 1. I buy apps from the Apple "App Store" for my various Mac's. 2. I do so because it is usually easy, free/cheap, and safe. 3. As a business model I believe all involved parties would agree that = the IOS App store has been a raging success for the same reasons. 4. Linux did it first, but failed to monetize it and of course has the = whole problem of less than 1% penetration. Phil Sieg President SeniorTech LLC / snapf=C5=8Dn=C2=AE www.snapfon.com phil.sieg@seniortechllc.com Phone: 423.535.9968 Fax: 423.265.9820 Mobile: 423.331.0725 "The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. = It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 not.