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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">But as a user of that open source
      software, you should give back to the community that is providing
      their skills for free by at least filing the bug with reproduction
      steps.<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">William Roush

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      On 9/28/2013 1:58 PM, Chad Smith wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Also, when you are trying to convince someone to
        switch to open source software, the last thing you should have
        to do is stop in the middle of it and file a bug report.</div>
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        <div><font size="4"><i><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">-</span><font
                style="font-family:garamond,serif"> Chad W. Smith</font></i></font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Chad
          Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:chad78@gmail.com" target="_blank">chad78@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">This isn't some Microsoft shill.  ET has been
              on this list for a long time.  Why would he lie?</div>
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              <div><font size="4"><i><span
                      style="font-family:garamond,serif">-</span><font
                      style="font-family:garamond,serif"> Chad W. Smith</font></i></font>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:43
                    PM, William Roush <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:william.roush@roushtech.net"
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                    wrote:<br>
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                      You want evidence to huge claims? That's absurd! I
                      can't be bothered to back them up.<br>
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                      Also how about a bug number instead... You know
                      doing the right thing for open source software you
                      get for free and reporting issues.
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                          Chad Smith <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Yeah, because everyone
                            remembers every math problem they ever did.</div>
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                                    Chad W. Smith</font></i></font>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 28,
                              2013 at 11:54 AM, wes <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
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                              wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:32 AM,
                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com"
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                                    wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Just
                                          to clarify:
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                                              the program *DID MATH
                                              WRONG*.<br>
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                                          means just that.<br>
                                          No excel import, no weird
                                          things here.<br>
                                          This was freshly created
                                          (albeit complex) spreadsheet.<br>
                                          Cells would display wrong
                                          numbers or not at all.<br>
                                          I could position the cursor in
                                          a cell and see a simple
                                          formula yielding a bad result.
                                          <br>
                                          This were problems that you'd
                                          figure basic testing would
                                          catch.<br>
                                          It was, in short, completely
                                          unreliable...   :(<br>
                                          ET <br>
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                                      <div>if it was just a simple
                                        formula, you should be able to
                                        give us the formula.<span><font
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                                            <div>-wes</div>
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                                          Chad Smith writes: <br>
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                                                Everyone who going to
                                                bat for LibreOffice -
                                                did you miss the part
                                                where ET<br>
                                                said that the program
                                                *DID MATH WRONG*. <br>
                                                That's not some "obscure
                                                feature set" needed only
                                                by "power users" or<br>
                                                people who are afraid of
                                                change.... That's the
                                                one thing that no<br>
                                                **computer** program
                                                should ever get wrong. <br>
                                                COMPUTER...  it
                                                computes.  That is its
                                                original intention.
                                                 It's native<br>
                                                language is 1s and 0s.
                                                 A computer spreadsheet
                                                that can't do math
                                                correctly<br>
                                                is not just useless -
                                                it's dangerous and
                                                should be avoided like
                                                the plague. <br>
                                                I like the idea of
                                                Libre/Open Office.  It
                                                is what introduced me to
                                                open<br>
                                                source as being a thing
                                                that exists.  But if
                                                Calc (the name of the<br>
                                                Spreadsheet mode of the
                                                program) can't Calculate
                                                - it shouldn't be
                                                allowed<br>
                                                to continue to exist...
                                                not until they fix that.
                                                 omg. <br>
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