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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Could be a mistake on his/his friend's
      part, should be reported, the details would be interesting
      (considering lots of us use it and haven't run into this).<br>
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      As an open source developer, it kind of irks me to spread FUD,
      especially with no details on how to reproduce.<br>
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      On 9/28/2013 1:56 PM, Chad Smith wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">This isn't some Microsoft shill.  ET has been on
        this list for a long time.  Why would he lie?</div>
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        <div><font size="4"><i><span style="font-family:garamond,serif">-</span><font
                style="font-family:garamond,serif"> Chad W. Smith</font></i></font>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM,
          William Roush <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:william.roush@roushtech.net" target="_blank">william.roush@roushtech.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            You want evidence to huge claims? That's absurd! I can't be
            bothered to back them up.<br>
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            Also how about a bug number instead... You know doing the
            right thing for open source software you get for free and
            reporting issues.
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                Chad Smith <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:chad78@gmail.com" target="_blank">chad78@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Yeah, because everyone remembers every
                  math problem they ever did.</div>
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                  <div><font size="4"><i><span
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                          style="font-family:garamond,serif"> Chad W.
                          Smith</font></i></font>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:54
                    AM, wes <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        href="mailto:wes@the-wes.com" target="_blank">wes@the-wes.com</a>></span>
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                        <div>On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:32 AM, <span
                            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com"
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                          wrote:<br>
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                                style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Just
                                to clarify:
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                                    style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">the
                                    program *DID MATH WRONG*.<br>
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                                means just that.<br>
                                No excel import, no weird things here.<br>
                                This was freshly created (albeit
                                complex) spreadsheet.<br>
                                Cells would display wrong numbers or not
                                at all.<br>
                                I could position the cursor in a cell
                                and see a simple formula yielding a bad
                                result. <br>
                                This were problems that you'd figure
                                basic testing would catch.<br>
                                It was, in short, completely
                                unreliable...   :(<br>
                                ET <br>
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                            <div>if it was just a simple formula, you
                              should be able to give us the formula.<span><font
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                                  <div>-wes</div>
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                                Chad Smith writes: <br>
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                                      Everyone who going to bat for
                                      LibreOffice - did you miss the
                                      part where ET<br>
                                      said that the program *DID MATH
                                      WRONG*. <br>
                                      That's not some "obscure feature
                                      set" needed only by "power users"
                                      or<br>
                                      people who are afraid of
                                      change.... That's the one thing
                                      that no<br>
                                      **computer** program should ever
                                      get wrong. <br>
                                      COMPUTER...  it computes.  That is
                                      its original intention.  It's
                                      native<br>
                                      language is 1s and 0s.  A computer
                                      spreadsheet that can't do math
                                      correctly<br>
                                      is not just useless - it's
                                      dangerous and should be avoided
                                      like the plague. <br>
                                      I like the idea of Libre/Open
                                      Office.  It is what introduced me
                                      to open<br>
                                      source as being a thing that
                                      exists.  But if Calc (the name of
                                      the<br>
                                      Spreadsheet mode of the program)
                                      can't Calculate - it shouldn't be
                                      allowed<br>
                                      to continue to exist... not until
                                      they fix that.  omg. <br>
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                                  *- Chad W. Smith*<br>
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