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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Also, in response to the blog post
      (improvement suggestion #1): if I actively seeked out more girls
      for the class I may have worked at, that would have looked.... odd
      to say the least. General discussions about getting the class
      together with students (which was held after their general
      computing class) was 100% boys at the time, and we were an IT
      heavy school at the time, it's a difficult position to be in (at
      least if you're a male, which if you're teaching programming
      you're likely to be).<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">William Roush</pre>
      On 9/10/2013 12:40 AM, William Roush wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">When I worked at a high school doing
        general IT work (they also wanted me to teach a programming
        class), I know an additional factor is the amount of garbage you
        had to deal with from administration, a lot of that from really
        lazy top-down legislation that sounded good before, but just put
        more busy work onto teacher's shoulders, and sure wasn't
        improving any quality (and costing more).<br>
        <br>
        I think a better question is why does additional money being
        given to schools usually end up in just a larger administrative
        staff (at least in my experience, it was like 6ish years ago).<br>
        <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">William Roush</pre>
        On 9/10/2013 12:33 AM, Lynn Dixon wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">As an adjunct instructor at a local college (I
          teach 2 linux courses 2 nights a week) the salary is what is
          keeping qualified individuals from teaching.  I am only an
          Adjunct, and I really teach because I enjoy it, and it keeps
          me sharp on my skills (a good way to learn something is to
          teach it), I do not do it because the salary is great.  Don't
          get me wrong, for the amount of work its a good easy paying
          job, and it pays for my flight time at the local FBO, but
          unless I was a tenured Prof, at a university, theres no way in
          hell I would do it as my primary career.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:25 AM,
            William Roush <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:william.roush@roushtech.net"
                target="_blank">william.roush@roushtech.net</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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                <div>Actually I think a better next step: why aren't
                  skilled people like Rikki looking to teach these kinds
                  of classes? If we leave it to those at the bottom of
                  the skill set pole no amount of legislation will fix
                  it and will just continue to an inefficient hole to
                  shovel money into rising administrative costs.<br>
                  <pre cols="72">William Roush

On 9/9/2013 11:08 PM, Phil Shapiro wrote:
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                    I'm really proud that someone from the open source
                    community (Rikki Endsley)
                    <div>had the courage and leadership to address this
                      nasty underside of our culture. </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>If you're not leading the world to a better
                      place, you're tolerating a world that's too </div>
                    <div>messed up. Next step? New civil rights
                      legislation that makes it a crime for someone</div>
                    <div>to tolerate gender harassment in a classroom or
                      workplace.</div>
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                    <div>                phil<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From:


                        </b>"Stephen Kraus" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ub3ratl4sf00@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank"><ub3ratl4sf00@gmail.com></a><br>
                        <b>To: </b>"Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux
                        Users Group" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:chugalug@chugalug.org"
                          target="_blank"><chugalug@chugalug.org></a><br>
                        <b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 9, 2013 10:54:21
                        PM<br>
                        <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Chugalug] Blog post - "To
                        my daughter's high school        programming
                        teacher"<br>
                        <br>
                        <div dir="ltr">What the hell....I hope this
                          keeps going up. This is unacceptable.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 9, 2013
                            at 10:34 PM, Phil Shapiro <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com"
                                target="_blank">pshapiro@his.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                  style="font-size:12pt;font-family:garamond,new
                                  york,times,serif"><font size="3"
                                    face="garamond, new york, times,
                                    serif">  An important blog post by a
                                    tech reporter colleague, Rikki
                                    Endsley.  </font>
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                                      color="#86847c" face="Lucida
                                      Grande, Lucida Sans Unicode,
                                      Lucida Sans, Geneva, Verdana,
                                      sans-serif"><span
                                        style="font-size:12px;line-height:20px"><i><br>
                                        </i></span></font>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"> <span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://tinyurl.com/puy6erh"
                                          target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/puy6erh</a></span></div>
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style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                                          This blog post is currently
                                        number 1 on Hacker News
                                        (YCombinator).</span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"> <span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I
                                        did a screen grab --</span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/ToMyDaughters.png"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/ToMyDaughters.png</a></span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                                         You can follow Rikki at <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.twitter.com/rikkiends"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/rikkiends</a></span></div>
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style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Retweet


                                        at</span></div>
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style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div
                                      style="font-family:Times;font-size:medium"><span><font
                                          face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial,
                                          Helvetica, sans-serif"><a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="https://twitter.com/rikkiends/status/377168772546957312"
                                            target="_blank">https://twitter.com/rikkiends/status/377168772546957312</a></font></span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                                           You might want to send her a
                                        short, encouraging @ message.</span></div>
                                    <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">It


                                        took courage to write that blog
                                        post.</span></div>
                                    <span><font color="#888888">
                                        <div style="font-size:12pt"> <span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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                                        <div style="font-size:12pt"><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                                                      phil</span></div>
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style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                        </span></div>
                                      <br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      <div><span></span>Phil Shapiro, <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com"
                                          target="_blank">pshapiro@his.com</a><br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html</a><br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro"
                                          target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro</a><br>
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                                          target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        "Wisdom begins with wonder." -
                                        Socrates<br>
                                        "Learning happens thru
                                        gentleness."<br>
                                        <span></span><br>
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