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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yeah, this really boils down to simple
      bullying in the classroom. Though I'd think that a school that had
      a PROGRAMMING course would have a little more quality teachers to
      deal with that sort of garbage (though every school has it's
      terrible teachers, and maybe programming classes have become more
      common than I understand they are at the high school level).<br>
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      Though I would have been tempted to see about getting her to a
      community college for her intro to programming, at least my
      experience there was a lot more orderly (and we did have girls in
      our classes... not many but a few), and you can pretty much bet
      the high school class will be borderline garbage all around.<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">William Roush

On 9/9/2013 11:38 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
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      <div dir="ltr">Legislation?<br>
        No. The teacher to do their jobs and report abuse and council
        students who chose to act that way in their class?<br>
        Yes.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM,
          Stephen Haywood <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:stephen@averagesecurityguy.info"
              target="_blank">stephen@averagesecurityguy.info</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't
            think we need new legislation. We need more parents to teach
            their children basic respect for others. If I had made a
            threat of violence or rape toward anyone, my father would
            have dealt with it swiftly and severely. But I never did
            anything like that because my parents took time to teach me
            to care for others.<br>
            --<br>
            Stephen Haywood<br>
            Owner, ASG Consulting<br>
            CISSP, GSEC, OSCP<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:423.305.3700"
              value="+14233053700">423.305.3700</a><br>
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              href="mailto:stephen@averagesecurityguy.info">stephen@averagesecurityguy.info</a><br>
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              On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Phil Shapiro <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com">pshapiro@his.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
              ><br>
              > I'm really proud that someone from the open source
              community (Rikki Endsley)<br>
              > had the courage and leadership to address this nasty
              underside of our culture.<br>
              ><br>
              > If you're not leading the world to a better place,
              you're tolerating a world that's too<br>
              > messed up. Next step? New civil rights legislation
              that makes it a crime for someone<br>
              > to tolerate gender harassment in a classroom or
              workplace.<br>
              ><br>
              >                 phil<br>
              ><br>
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              <div class="h5">> From: "Stephen Kraus" <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ub3ratl4sf00@gmail.com">ub3ratl4sf00@gmail.com</a>><br>
                > To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users
                Group" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:chugalug@chugalug.org">chugalug@chugalug.org</a>><br>
                > Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 10:54:21 PM<br>
                > Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Blog post - "To my
                daughter's high school        programming teacher"<br>
                ><br>
                > What the hell....I hope this keeps going up. This
                is unacceptable.<br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
                > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Phil Shapiro <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com">pshapiro@his.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
                >   An important blog post by a tech reporter
                colleague, Rikki Endsley.<br>
                ><br>
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://tinyurl.com/puy6erh" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/puy6erh</a><br>
                ><br>
                >     This blog post is currently number 1 on Hacker
                News (YCombinator).<br>
                ><br>
                > I did a screen grab --<br>
                ><br>
                >     <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/ToMyDaughters.png"
                  target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/ToMyDaughters.png</a><br>
                ><br>
                >    You can follow Rikki at <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.twitter.com/rikkiends"
                  target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/rikkiends</a><br>
                ><br>
                > Retweet at<br>
                ><br>
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://twitter.com/rikkiends/status/377168772546957312"
                  target="_blank">https://twitter.com/rikkiends/status/377168772546957312</a><br>
                ><br>
                >      You might want to send her a short,
                encouraging @ message.<br>
                > It took courage to write that blog post.<br>
                ><br>
                >             phil<br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
                > --<br>
                > Phil Shapiro, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com">pshapiro@his.com</a><br>
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html"
                  target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html</a><br>
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro"
                  target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro</a><br>
                > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html"
                  target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html</a><br>
                ><br>
                > "Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates<br>
                > "Learning happens thru gentleness."<br>
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