<p dir="ltr">Breaking it down implies Hydrogen, either way 80% is either impressive or bullshit as far as the law of thermodynamics</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 17, 2013 10:50 PM, "Rod-Lists" <<a href="mailto:rod-lists@epbfi.com">rod-lists@epbfi.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It doesn't generate H or methane, it breaks it down.<br>
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> I don't know, I don't want anything generating hydrogen in that<br>
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> Diesel and biodiesel for me thanks.<br>
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> 80% efficiency seems a bit on the high side too, and theres been<br>
> setups claiming efficiency like this that were found to be<br>
> overstated in the past.<br>
> On Aug 17, 2013 10:04 PM, "Chad Smith" < <a href="mailto:chad78@gmail.com">chad78@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<br>
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> 2 year ROI. Not bad.<br>
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> Man, the wannabe "prepper" in me is drooling.<br>
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> - Chad W. Smith<br>
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> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rod-Lists < <a href="mailto:rod-lists@epbfi.com">rod-lists@epbfi.com</a> ><br>
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> New 25 Kw fuel cell tech that is claiming 80% efficiency in a<br>
> co-generation setup.<br>
> They claim they dropped the temperature down to 300 degrees and it is<br>
> the size of a dishwasher.<br>
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> Currently runs on methane but could do hydrogen.<br>
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> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans-to-roll-out-dishwasher-sized-fuel-cells-that-cost-90-less-than-currently-available-fuel-cells/" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans-to-roll-out-dishwasher-sized-fuel-cells-that-cost-90-less-than-currently-available-fuel-cells/</a><br>

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