<p dir="ltr">Stirling engines are incredibly weak as far as actual torque generated and work done, most of the actual uses of stirling engines are as heat pumps where it obviously makes sense to use them.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Either way, I remaining skeptical of this for now, mainly because 80% efficiency seems incredibly high...especially for power generation.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 18, 2013 3:01 PM, "Rod-Lists" <<a href="mailto:rod-lists@epbfi.com">rod-lists@epbfi.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Stephen that is only in a co-generation configuration in which they are capturing the heat of the system and putting it to work.<br>
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I think every generating system should be co-generation but doesn't always happen.<br>
I also wondered about coupling geothermal to thermoelectric systems or stirling engines to generate electricity thus getting co-gerneration from the other direction.<br>
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> Breaking it down implies Hydrogen, either way 80% is either<br>
> impressive or bullshit as far as the law of thermodynamics<br>
> On Aug 17, 2013 10:50 PM, "Rod-Lists" < <a href="mailto:rod-lists@epbfi.com">rod-lists@epbfi.com</a> > wrote:<br>
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> It doesn't generate H or methane, it breaks it down.<br>
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> > I don't know, I don't want anything generating hydrogen in that<br>
> > amount near my house.<br>
> ><br>
> > Diesel and biodiesel for me thanks.<br>
> ><br>
> > 80% efficiency seems a bit on the high side too, and theres been<br>
> > setups claiming efficiency like this that were found to be<br>
> > overstated in the past.<br>
> > On Aug 17, 2013 10:04 PM, "Chad Smith" < <a href="mailto:chad78@gmail.com">chad78@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<br>
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> ><br>
> ><br>
> > 2 year ROI. Not bad.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Man, the wannabe "prepper" in me is drooling.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > - Chad W. Smith<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rod-Lists < <a href="mailto:rod-lists@epbfi.com">rod-lists@epbfi.com</a> ><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > New 25 Kw fuel cell tech that is claiming 80% efficiency in a<br>
> > co-generation setup.<br>
> > They claim they dropped the temperature down to 300 degrees and it<br>
> > is<br>
> > the size of a dishwasher.<br>
> ><br>
> > Currently runs on methane but could do hydrogen.<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans-to-roll-out-dishwasher-sized-fuel-cells-that-cost-90-less-than-currently-available-fuel-cells/" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans-to-roll-out-dishwasher-sized-fuel-cells-that-cost-90-less-than-currently-available-fuel-cells/</a><br>

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