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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">True, you are only stuck with
      RedHat/Fedora for the management console, which is bad enough on
      it's own (for a Debian guy like me) but without the guest agent
      your options are also limited. This is they guest agent I was
      talking about:<br>
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      Sure, almost anything "Will run" under KVM, but without the guest
      extensions then it "just runs", As with most visualization
      technologies often you have issues with ACPI, shutdown vs reboot,
      various other reporting and management features of the OS.  In
      particular, real time clock issues tend to go really crazy. (I
      don't know if that is true in oVirt but it is in VmWare). They
      list the agent as required on the above page.<br>
      <br>
      In Virtualbox and VmWare for example, the guest agent (or guest
      extensions I think they call it) provide hardware clock sync, USB
      pass through support, optical drive attach / detach. Shutdown /
      Reboot / Suspend calls from the management console, etc.<br>
      <br>
      On a related note, I have been prepping to play with OpenStack
      (the real one, not RackSpace or HP) for larger setups and I have
      no idea how these issues are managed there.<br>
      <br>
      --Jason<br>
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      On 04/12/2013 09:28 AM, Lynn Dixon wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Jason,
        <div style="">I think you are thinking about the management
          console itself?  But yeah, oVirt runs on RHEL variants such as
          CentOS and Fedora. You will need to run oVirt's hypervisor on
          the server you want to use as a host, but you can also run the
          management console on this same machine.</div>
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        <div style="">But, once you have the environment running, you
          can run any OS as a guest that will run on KVM, which is
          pretty much anything. The hypervisor is KVM at the core, and
          the only "Red Hat-ish" stuff is geared around the management
          of the hypevisor.  I have built several Windows variants in
          oVirt, and I always use the latest KVM guest tools I can find.
           I prefer Spice to be the console, and it works great in
          Windows guests. </div>
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        <div style="">The entire management console was re-written in
          JBOSS.  Red Hat originally bought the product from Kumranet
          which was highly windows centric.  Of course, Red Hat
          re-worked it to perform on their gear, but any CentOS or
          Fedora OS will run the management console.  They are however,
          asking for help getting the console to run on top of other
          *NIX variants.</div>
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        <div style="">TLDR: If your guest OS will run on KVM
          hypervisors, it will run in oVirt.  oVirt is simply a pretty
          web console to manage KVM hypervisors, storage and hosts.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Jason
          Brown <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:lists@masterforge.com" target="_blank">lists@masterforge.com</a>></span>
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              <div>It's been a while since I looked at it, and it looks
                like it is still very very RedHat world specific, lots
                of calls for developers to make it run on Debian/Ubuntu
                etc. Even the guest extensions only seem to work on
                RedHat based guests. If I am reading that incorrectly
                let me know. It looks nice if it actually supports other
                operating systems.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
                    color="#888888"><br>
                    <br>
                    --Jason</font></span>
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                    On 04/12/2013 08:43 AM, Lynn Dixon wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">You really need to check out oVirt:
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                      <div>Its the upstream for Red Hat's RHEV product
                        and its pretty awesome.  It has a really nice
                        web console to manage your environment, and you
                        can run the console and hosts all one one
                        machine.  Plus, it uses KVM as the hypervisor.</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at
                        8:36 AM, JonathanCalloway <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jonathancalloway@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">jonathancalloway@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                            <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times
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                              <div><font size="3">I'm toying with the
                                  idea of buying a heavy duty PC or
                                  server as cheaply as possible, and
                                  using a hypervisor to run about 2-3
                                  VM's on it.  I've looked at ESXi, but
                                  can't really find a management tool
                                  that </font>doesn't<font size="3"> cost

                                  money.  Of course, KVM or any other
                                  *nix based solutions are viable here.
                                   However, I want something that's easy
                                  to set up, and flexible, so I can
                                  constantly remove images and add new
                                  ones whenever I want to play with a
                                  new OS.</font></div>
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                              <div><font size="3">Any </font><font
                                  size="3">recommendations?  Also, any
                                  hardware recommendations? </font></div>
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                              <div>Thanks!</div>
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