<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">hehe, I sent piratically identical advice to Garrett off-list.    I guess I should have sent on-list, but I'm always afraid my suggestions are bourgeois and I will be laughed at for my simplicity ;)<br><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 3/14/13, Mike Robinson <i><miker@sundialservices.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Mike Robinson <miker@sundialservices.com><br>Subject: Re: [Chugalug] LAMP problem<br>To: chugalug@chugalug.org<br>Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 4:20 PM<br><br><div id="yiv895777364"><div><div>When trying to diagnose a problem like this one, look at two places:  server logs (or wherever debugging-messages are put out to), and a browser's HTML debugger .. such as the Firebug plugin for Firefox, the Developer screens in Safari (you
 have to flip an option in preferences to turn that on), and so on.</div><div><br></div><div>Firebug will =show= you what HTTP packet is being sent to the host, and what HTTP packet is returned.  No more guessing about what was actually sent or received.</div><div><br></div><div>When debugging, make the code initially "chatty."  Echo stuff out as you go along the success-route, not just in case of failure.  Comment those out later.</div><div><br></div><div>
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