We need more bourgeois and simple troubleshooting advice. Sometimes the computer is actually unplugged and the guy/gal on the other end needs to be told to plug it up. <div><br></div><div>Not aimed at you Garret. Just don't want Ed to think simple advice is not needed.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Ed King <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chevyiinova@bellsouth.net" target="_blank">chevyiinova@bellsouth.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">hehe, I sent piratically identical advice to Garrett off-list.    I guess I should have sent on-list, but I'm always afraid my suggestions are bourgeois and I will be laughed at for my simplicity ;)<br>
<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 3/14/13, Mike Robinson <i><<a href="mailto:miker@sundialservices.com" target="_blank">miker@sundialservices.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px">
<br>From: Mike Robinson <<a href="mailto:miker@sundialservices.com" target="_blank">miker@sundialservices.com</a>><div class="im"><br>Subject: Re: [Chugalug] LAMP problem<br></div>To: <a href="mailto:chugalug@chugalug.org" target="_blank">chugalug@chugalug.org</a><br>
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 4:20 PM<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div><div><div>When trying to diagnose a problem like this one, look at two places:  server logs (or wherever debugging-messages are put out to), and a browser's HTML debugger .. such as the Firebug plugin for Firefox, the Developer screens in Safari (you
 have to flip an option in preferences to turn that on), and so on.</div><div><br></div><div>Firebug will =show= you what HTTP packet is being sent to the host, and what HTTP packet is returned.  No more guessing about what was actually sent or received.</div>
<div><br></div><div>When debugging, make the code initially "chatty."  Echo stuff out as you go along the success-route, not just in case of failure.  Comment those out later.</div><div><br></div><div>
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