[Chugalug] penetrate me!

William Roush william.roush at roushtech.net
Thu Mar 27 05:02:58 UTC 2014

I've dealt with pentesters before, it's kind of aggravating when I have 
working exploits they don't find and we're forking over tons of money 
for them to go on some tangent that results in nothing... :\

Though I as I understand it the market is going the way of SEO and the 
like, once valid, now full of a lot of people that barely know how to do 
it and will just run the same tools you found and charge you insane 
amounts of money for it.

Your client will probably want someone that can rubber stamp a pen test 
on you, so sadly it'll take more than someone that just /knows/ security 
but can give you the paperwork to back it up and a company name.

William Roush
william.roush at roushtech.net


On 3/27/2014 12:58 AM, Ed King wrote:
> Our "network administrator" at the main office quit over a year ago 
> and a replacement was never hired.
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christopher-silver/7/6a8/341
> Our "network administrator" at our "NOC" quit over a year ago and 
> never got replaced.
> www.linkedin.com/in/mlaman
> Our "phone system guy" quit a year ago, a replacement was hired, but 
> I've seen him, like, once.  When the phone/fax systems goes down, they 
> call ME.
> http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=49461976
> So guess what?  I and one of the other programmers on my team 
> inherited all these extra support duties (without a single f'ing penny 
> of a pay raise, mind you).
> We inherited hardware and software that hasn't been updated in years 
> (insert career-damaging-but-painfully-true 
> my-boss-is-a-cheap-bastard-and-doesn't-spend-money-on-upgrades comment 
> here)
> We know basic firewall, iptables, am mindful of sql injection, can 
> install/run/monitor virus scanners etc, but we are not security 
> experts nor do we play one on t.v.
> If this situation wasn't stressful enough, it has now come to a boil 
> as a potential (big!) client "demands" proof of pen testing before 
> they will let us host their data.    At this point I'm spread way to 
> thin and told my boss today that he needs to crack open that wallet 
> and hire an outside pen tester.    Anyone on the list "qualified" to 
> do it?    Willing to work for peanuts?
> What defines a qualified pen tester?  I see what appears to be "free" 
> software I could download and run myself, if I was inclined to take on 
> more responsibility w/o pay.    I suppose this free software would be 
> a "good start" but is a pen test done by an "internal" employee good 
> enough for the client, I doubt it.
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