[Chugalug] Apple announces the new iPhone...its gold.
chad78 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 12 00:28:17 UTC 2013
Well I may have been misinformed on that one. The last chart I had seen
was based on mobile web browser usage - not sales (since that is an
indicator of how many phones are actually currently being used - not just
sold at this moment) - and it had iOS browsers at around 34% of global
mobile traffic, and Android at closer to 30% - it wasn't a huge margin, but
it was still higher. And - even if Android is outselling iOS *now* you are
still comparing one company's products (Apple's) to dozens of other
company's products (Motorola, Samsung, Sony, HTC, etc.). That doesn't
negate that Android may currently have a larger market share - but the fact
that it's even a race says there is a market for it.
Let me put it this way - if Ford was selling 50% as many cars as - EVERY
OTHER CAR MAKER IN THE WORLD COMBINED - then they'd be doing pretty damn
good. (If you want to include Windows Phone, BlackBerry, and Symbian, etc.
in the analogy - then say "as every other *non-racecar* car maker in the
world" or "Non-electric" or some other exclusion to remove 10% or less of
all cars on the market.)
*- Chad W. Smith*
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lynn Dixon <boodaddy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is an interesting tid bit that Tim Cook didn't mention:
> It appears the chart they shown in the presentations could be
> Chad, to counter your argument that "iOS is the most widely used mobile
> operatng system" and "iPhone outselss all Android phones combined" is just
> simply wrong. Android has a much larger market share than iOS in the
> United States now, and has held the lead world wide for a while now. There
> are many sources out there to confirm this, but here is one:
> And another:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Aaron welch <n2nightfall at gmail.com>wrote:
>> So to chime in here after reading the tech specs:
>> Why is there a M7 co-processor? To offload motion and positional
>> functions from the main A7 CPU to conserve power. The M7 supposedly uses
>> 1/10 (no real facts to back that up yet) the power of the A7.
>> 64-bit memory space update is also related to graphics functions as
>> higher I/O rates boost performance.
>> I would use the sh!t out of the finger print scanner to keep from typing
>> my 16-digit Apple ID password or as a 2-factor for a password store on my
>> The additional camera features are a big deal to me as I Facetime my
>> girls from all over the country and the light sensor would help them be
>> able to see me wherever I am.
>> Lastly, the LTE enhancements are LONG overdue. I get better data rates
>> out of 4G using my AT&T iPhone 5.
>> Just my 2 cents, digest as you see fit.
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Lynn Dixon <boodaddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I am going to disagree. The fingerprint scanner has been on mobile
>>>> phones for a while now, so its nothing new. The Motorola Atrix had one
>>>> that worked pretty good. To me, they are kinda useless, and seems gimmicky.
>>>> 64 bit is "meh" for me right now. it will be a few years before
>>>> developers take hold of it, and by then something better will be out
>>>> anyways. This won't pull me away from Android.
>>> Epic Games said it took them less than 2 hours to change their 32 bit
>>> game to a 64 bit one.
>>>> Why does the compass, gyroscope and acceleromoter need a separate
>>>> deidcated processor? My 2 year old Nexus handles all of them great right
>>>> now, without a dedicated processor.
>>> Why do graphics need their own dedicated processor?
>>> Seriously, I can't believe this is even a question. If you have a
>>> dedicated processor handling that stuff, then your main CPU can deal with
>>> what it has to deal with. If you can't appreciate that, just think of it
>>> as adding another core.
>>>> As for your "faster CPU" and "desktop level apps" comment, I honestly
>>>> don't use my phone as my desktop. Until someone does true device
>>>> convergance well, I will never use my phone as my desktop, regardless of
>>>> how much horsepower it has. I need at least dual screen, high resolution
>>>> support, with full keyboard and mouse connectivity. It also needs to do
>>>> USB devices (Think storage) well.
>>> Oh well, I guess since *you* don't use your phone like a computer, then
>>> the whole concept should be scrapped, because obviously if you aren't using
>>> it that way then no one else is, no should they, no could they ever.
>>> I don't use Instagram, so it shouldn't exist. I don't use Debian, or
>>> VIM, so those shouldn't exist either.
>>> There are people who use their phones as remote workstations, creating
>>> and controlling content from the palm their hand. I don't have an iPhone -
>>> or even a smartphone, but I do have an Android tablet (several, actually,
>>> but I only really use one) and an iPod Touch. I've used both to do some
>>> pretty work-related type computery stuff.
>>> Regardless of whether you personally use your phone to do anything other
>>> than make phone calls - there are millions of people who use them for
>>> things that need processing power. And, scoff if you will, playing games
>>> is one of them. Mobile gaming a billion dollar industry - and has been for
>>> at least 5 years.
>>> Games drive growth in computing power - they did for the desktop (and
>>> still do, so I'm lead to believe) and they are for phones.
>>>> I was really hoping the Ubuntu Phone would have become a reality. That
>>>> is true innovation. To me, this new iPhone is indeed a speedbump of
>>> The Ubuntu Edge was a pretty cool system - but it was basically a speed
>>> bump of a Nokia N900 (which I had for years). The N900 could run full
>>> fledged desktop Linux apps. (My current Android tablet has OpenOffice on
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice&hl=en) And could basically become a desktop computer with a really tiny screen.
>>> If they had HDMI out, then bam, desktop in my pocket.
>>> The Atrix, that was already mentioned, pretty much did the same thing.
>>> In fact, any Android phone with video out and BlueTooth and/or USB OTG
>>> could be used that way. The Ubuntu Edge was just a speed bump.
>>> You can trivialize anything - "My Commodre 64 played games - the PS4 is
>>> just a speed bump." "The ENIAC could perform math, the Tianhe-2 is just
>>> a speed bump."
>>> There was far more to the iPhone 5s than an improved processor. Just
>>> because you don't like, aren't impressed by, or wouldn't use those features
>>> does not mean they do not exist.
>>> But, as I said, I won't be getting one. I am in the market for a
>>> smartphone, but I don't want a contract, and I want things the iPhone
>>> doesn't offer (like the aforementioned HDMI out, USB OTG, and expandable
>>> storage). But that doesn't mean it's a useless piece of junk. Like it or
>>> not, iOS is the most widely used mobile operating system. That means the
>>> iPhone outsells all Android phones combined. There is a market for what
>>> they are offering.
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