[Chugalug] "Code for America" $420,000 USD

Rod rod-lists at epbfi.com
Tue Sep 3 16:23:53 UTC 2013

This the Austin version of the site.

Some valid points Mike. There is surprising cell penetration in the  
homeless. Actually not when you consider a family that was middle class  
goes homeless they don't lose all their stuff. I would point out first gen  
smart phones are starting to become real cheap.

After looking at the sheltr.org it looks like it could be used by clients  
or caseworkers.
And the way this city shuts down shelter space it can be handy to know who  
is and who is not open.
Interfaith network for example relies on churches allowing the use of  
their buildings at night.

As to who would take ownership of this project, I would think the homeless  
coalition or one of it's members.
Perhaps Pilgrim Congregation or the Unitarians if I were to  approach a  

If someone wants to work on this for Chattanooga I'll introduce you to  
agencies who could benefit from this.

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 07:18:04 -0400, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com>  

> On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Rod <rod-lists at epbfi.com> wrote:
>> There is a dire need for this one in town.
>> Work on Sheltr.org
>> http://brigade.codeforamerica.org/applications/9
> Rod, neat app idea, I'm going to play devils advocate and ask 3  
> questions and take an unpopular stance:
> 1. Of the typical pseudo-homeless crowd, how many of them have a  
> smartphone that can access such info?
> 2. Of those people, would it be possibly be more useful to get better  
> information for these services into existing, installed on the phone by  
> default, mapping/location/information systems?
>     ie; spoon feeding google maps, bing maps, apple maps.. etc. with  
> this detailed information in a standardized parable format that could be  
> easily displayed?
> 3. Or is the intended use to be available to assistance providers? The  
> target audience and specifications are not clear.
> I think my issue is the focus towards application development frenzy,  
> instead of the focus towards sharing information in usable standardized  
> formats.
> For example, if a small church were to open up a pantry and shelter of  
> it's own, it could easily make that information available on it's web  
> site in a format that is indexable and searchable.
> ie:   As of 20130904 20:00  2 beds are available at the Pastafarian  
> Pantheism Parachurch Pagoda on Pius Street,  Spaghetti served daily at  
> Seven pm.
> A mobile friendly organizational website might allow a seeker to place a  
> 15 minute reservation on a bed.. giving them time to get there and get a  
> bed. A phone call should work also.
> Otherwise the web app needs and organization to moderate and filter  
> information, and maintain it.
> Building the web application (sans-detailed specification) is a  10-16  
> hrs job for a guy like me using my toolset, maintaining it, promoting  
> it, keeping it current, etc.. is a full time job for one or more people.
> Coding it is not the issue. The rest of the entity requirements,  
> meetings, organizational needs, server maintenance.. etc.. . is the  
> issue.
> I've also worked with enough community service organizations and people  
> in need to know that there is a lot of assistance available in the  
> Chattanooga area,  I'll agree there could be specific needs for more and  
> better information disbursement, but is creating another soon to be  
> orphaned/abandoned web application built on an obtuse framework the  
> answer?
> And for the on-topic part: Of course, it should run on Linux.

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