[Chugalug] OT: esxi 5.5 and winxp 32

Matt Keys mk6032 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 18 15:47:23 UTC 2013

Yeah yeah... I know it's outdated/unsupported but winxp still serves me 
well as a small vm to run stuff on that I can't in my usual linux 
environment, e.g. vsphere client. It was quick 'n easy to install / 
reinstall and you didn't have to contact MS for a new key each time. 
 From time to time I need to show one of our engineers or software devs 
a particular bug or configuration scenario and this was the best/most 
flexible way I found to accomplish that. I'd just temporarily poke a 
hole for them in the firewall for rdp and they'd connect directly to the 
winxp vm and launch the vsphere client from there. 5.5 has totally 
screwed that plan up...

I'm thinking about just blowing away one of the esxi hosts and standing 
up kvm, that way they could just ssh in with x forwarding and launch 
virt-manager if they want/need to. The downside being virt-manager 
doesn't have all the snazzy features yet. Maybe it's time to give 
eucalyptus or oVirt another shot.

On 10/18/2013 11:09 AM, Nick Smith wrote:
> First, why are you running windows xp? ;-)
> If microsoft is dropping it, why would anyone else still support it?
> Second, the snazzy features that you wont see in the real client you 
> wouldnt see anyway without a license.
> They will always have the hypervisor for free, vsphere/vcenter comes 
> in when you need centralized management of all your hosts. (and lots 
> of other features)
> They are headed in the web client direction and ive heard that they 
> will eventually do away with the standard client (which i personally 
> hate, the web client is slow) and there are plugins that arent ready 
> for the web client yet, update manager is one of them.
> I would assume if they ever discontinue the standard client, they 
> would roll out a web client version for the free hypervisor, you have 
> to have some way to manage your host. I dont see that as pushing 
> people to buy vsphere/vcenter.
> They people that need its features will buy it anyway, or already have it.
> They also just raised the host/vm restrictions in 5.5 for the linux 
> vcenter server appliance which runs postgres.
> (no need for more MS and SQL licenses yay!)
> http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2013/08/26/vsphere-5-5-nuggets-vcenter-server-appliance-limitations-lifted/
> I cant comment on vmware reps, ive never spoken to one.
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Matt Keys <mk6032 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:mk6032 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>     Just a heads up that I discovered winxp 32 bit isn't compatible
>     with the new vsphere 5.5 client. I'm pretty sure it's because of
>     http://kb.vmware.com/kb/2049143 , but that refers to the real
>     vsphere server whereas I'm connecting at the host level with the
>     client. This is the error I get :
>     http://www.mattkeys.net/winxp32_esxi55.png . The same machine
>     using 5.1 client worked just fine, there are no
>     network/firewall/av issues to note. My clients installed on Win 7
>     and 8 machines are working fine. Also note the "you won't see all
>     the new snazzy features of 5.5 with the real client" message. It
>     seems like they're pushing you to the web client, which requires a
>     vsphere server (standard/enterprise) license does it not?
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