[Chugalug] Silk Road and Bitcoins

Rod rod-lists at epbfi.com
Mon Oct 7 01:58:36 UTC 2013


just another day on the lug.


On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 21:10:58 -0400, William Roush  
<william.roush at roushtech.net> wrote:

> No, I meant that we're having a public discussion that includes a lot of  
> ranting about the government and not having our doors kicked in over it.
> William Roush
>
> On 10/6/2013 9:10 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>> Silk Road? A person running a drugs trade on a website? The same person  
>> who ACTIVELY sought and paid for what he thought was a hit on someone  
>> who spoke ill of him?
>>
>> Not an innocent party, hell its called a black market for a reason: Its  
>> illegal. I'm all for legalizing pot, but he wasn't just some kid  
>> growing marijuana plants in his basement selling >>them on the side  
>> through Tor to people with Bitcoins.
>>
>> If your site is trading in questionable goods that would be considered  
>> illicit, you might get arrested.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM, William Roush  
>> <william.roush at roushtech.net> wrote:
>>> The fact that this very thread is going on...
>>> William Roush
>>>
>>> On 10/6/2013 8:23 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>>> Still not Stasi. This is about as bad as someone comparing the Police  
>>>> to Nazis and the Gestapo because they get arrested.
>>>>
>>>> Once again, if you think in any way that our country is ANYWHERE and  
>>>> ANYWAY comparable to a 1950s era Soviet Secret Police unit, you are  
>>>> out of your >>>>mind.
>>>>
>>>> And the NSA? As bad as they are, I've yet to see really any  
>>>> convincing evidence that they are using Prism to arrest people for  
>>>> speaking foul of Obama or >>>>Congress/Senate. So, its not the Stasi.  
>>>> They'd arrest you just for TALKING about overthrowing the government,  
>>>> the Tea Party's more radical factions are living >>>>proof that you  
>>>> do not live in a Stasi like law enforcement era. Then they'd torture  
>>>> you for talking about rebelling to find out who your friends were, or  
>>>> threaten >>>>you with death and 'disappearing' you.
>>>>
>>>> The 'American' Stasi would have made the Tea Party disappear long ago  
>>>> for even talking about overthrowing the government.
>>>>
>>>> Please, if you are going to compare NSA/Prism/FBI/CIA to the Stasi,  
>>>> KGB, Gestapo, or any other extreme right wing/communist era draconian  
>>>> secret police, >>>>have something to show for it. I don't know,  
>>>> arrest for speaking bad about Obama, or hating on capitalism.
>>>>
>>>> And as far as Zersetzung, don't make me laugh. You have never  
>>>> experience psychological...unless you are literally telling me people  
>>>> are breaking into your >>>>house and rearranging your bookshelf and  
>>>> plates. The comparison is very poor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com>  
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On 10/6/2013 6:50 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>>>>> Still not Stasi. Seriously, let me know when you have a designated
>>>>>> political officer in your building and spies around every corner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps deeper reading of the subject I suggested.  Look specifically
>>>>> for *why* in addition to *what* it was/is.  Seriously, on average we
>>>>> break 3 felonies a day, imagine how easy it must be to make people go
>>>>> away with near global communications intercept and capture ability
>>>>> awarded by secret courts with zero oversight.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But if you think the FBI, no matter hor broken and corrupt, you
>>>>>> are dreaming. The Stasi are the evil twin of the FBI mixed in with
>>>>>> 1984.
>>>>>
>>>>> FBI?  No, the FBI is just one of the lucky pawn agencies that  
>>>>> receives
>>>>> those magic tidbits of "evidence" that have to be written out of the
>>>>> "official" reports after the fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> dtb
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