[Chugalug] Silk Road and Bitcoins

William Roush william.roush at roushtech.net
Mon Oct 7 01:25:46 UTC 2013


It's cool, I wasn't 100% clear on that one.

William Roush

On 10/6/2013 9:24 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:

> Ah, sorry William. My mistake.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM, William Roush 
> <william.roush at roushtech.net <mailto:william.roush at roushtech.net>> wrote:
>
>     No, I meant that we're having a public discussion that includes a
>     lot of ranting about the government and not having our doors
>     kicked in over it.
>
>     William Roush
>
>     On 10/6/2013 9:10 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>
>>     Silk Road? A person running a drugs trade on a website? The same
>>     person who ACTIVELY sought and paid for what he thought was a hit
>>     on someone who spoke ill of him?
>>
>>     Not an innocent party, hell its called a black market for a
>>     reason: Its illegal. I'm all for legalizing pot, but he wasn't
>>     just some kid growing marijuana plants in his basement selling
>>     them on the side through Tor to people with Bitcoins.
>>
>>     If your site is trading in questionable goods that would be
>>     considered illicit, you might get arrested.
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM, William Roush
>>     <william.roush at roushtech.net
>>     <mailto:william.roush at roushtech.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         The fact that this very thread is going on...
>>
>>         William Roush
>>
>>         On 10/6/2013 8:23 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>
>>>         Still not Stasi. This is about as bad as someone comparing
>>>         the Police to Nazis and the Gestapo because they get arrested.
>>>
>>>         Once again, if you think in any way that our country is
>>>         ANYWHERE and ANYWAY comparable to a 1950s era Soviet Secret
>>>         Police unit, you are out of your mind.
>>>
>>>         And the NSA? As bad as they are, I've yet to see really any
>>>         convincing evidence that they are using Prism to arrest
>>>         people for speaking foul of Obama or Congress/Senate. So,
>>>         its not the Stasi. They'd arrest you just for TALKING about
>>>         overthrowing the government, the Tea Party's more radical
>>>         factions are living proof that you do not live in a Stasi
>>>         like law enforcement era. Then they'd torture you for
>>>         talking about rebelling to find out who your friends were,
>>>         or threaten you with death and 'disappearing' you.
>>>
>>>         The 'American' Stasi would have made the Tea Party disappear
>>>         long ago for even talking about overthrowing the government.
>>>
>>>         Please, if you are going to compare NSA/Prism/FBI/CIA to the
>>>         Stasi, KGB, Gestapo, or any other extreme right
>>>         wing/communist era draconian secret police, have something
>>>         to show for it. I don't know, arrest for speaking bad about
>>>         Obama, or hating on capitalism.
>>>
>>>         And as far as Zersetzung, don't make me laugh. You have
>>>         never experience psychological...unless you are literally
>>>         telling me people are breaking into your house and
>>>         rearranging your bookshelf and plates. The comparison is
>>>         very poor.
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Dave Brockman
>>>         <dave at brockmans.com <mailto:dave at brockmans.com>> wrote:
>>>
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>>>             On 10/6/2013 6:50 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>>             > Still not Stasi. Seriously, let me know when you have
>>>             a designated
>>>             > political officer in your building and spies around
>>>             every corner.
>>>
>>>             Perhaps deeper reading of the subject I suggested.  Look
>>>             specifically
>>>             for *why* in addition to *what* it was/is.  Seriously,
>>>             on average we
>>>             break 3 felonies a day, imagine how easy it must be to
>>>             make people go
>>>             away with near global communications intercept and
>>>             capture ability
>>>             awarded by secret courts with zero oversight.
>>>
>>>             > But if you think the FBI, no matter hor broken and
>>>             corrupt, you
>>>             > are dreaming. The Stasi are the evil twin of the FBI
>>>             mixed in with
>>>             > 1984.
>>>
>>>             FBI?  No, the FBI is just one of the lucky pawn agencies
>>>             that receives
>>>             those magic tidbits of "evidence" that have to be
>>>             written out of the
>>>             "official" reports after the fact.
>>>
>>>             Regards,
>>>
>>>             dtb
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