[Chugalug] Silk Road and Bitcoins

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 7 01:24:59 UTC 2013


Ah, sorry William. My mistake.


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM, William Roush
<william.roush at roushtech.net>wrote:

>  No, I meant that we're having a public discussion that includes a lot of
> ranting about the government and not having our doors kicked in over it.
>
> William Roush
>
> On 10/6/2013 9:10 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>
>  Silk Road? A person running a drugs trade on a website? The same person
> who ACTIVELY sought and paid for what he thought was a hit on someone who
> spoke ill of him?
>
> Not an innocent party, hell its called a black market for a reason: Its
> illegal. I'm all for legalizing pot, but he wasn't just some kid growing
> marijuana plants in his basement selling them on the side through Tor to
> people with Bitcoins.
>
> If your site is trading in questionable goods that would be considered
> illicit, you might get arrested.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM, William Roush <william.roush at roushtech.net
> > wrote:
>
>>  The fact that this very thread is going on...
>>
>> William Roush
>>
>> On 10/6/2013 8:23 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>
>>   Still not Stasi. This is about as bad as someone comparing the Police
>> to Nazis and the Gestapo because they get arrested.
>>
>> Once again, if you think in any way that our country is ANYWHERE and
>> ANYWAY comparable to a 1950s era Soviet Secret Police unit, you are out of
>> your mind.
>>
>> And the NSA? As bad as they are, I've yet to see really any convincing
>> evidence that they are using Prism to arrest people for speaking foul of
>> Obama or Congress/Senate. So, its not the Stasi. They'd arrest you just for
>> TALKING about overthrowing the government, the Tea Party's more radical
>> factions are living proof that you do not live in a Stasi like law
>> enforcement era. Then they'd torture you for talking about rebelling to
>> find out who your friends were, or threaten you with death and
>> 'disappearing' you.
>>
>> The 'American' Stasi would have made the Tea Party disappear long ago for
>> even talking about overthrowing the government.
>>
>> Please, if you are going to compare NSA/Prism/FBI/CIA to the Stasi, KGB,
>> Gestapo, or any other extreme right wing/communist era draconian secret
>> police, have something to show for it. I don't know, arrest for speaking
>> bad about Obama, or hating on capitalism.
>>
>> And as far as Zersetzung, don't make me laugh. You have never experience
>> psychological...unless you are literally telling me people are breaking
>> into your house and rearranging your bookshelf and plates. The comparison
>> is very poor.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com> wrote:
>>
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>>>  On 10/6/2013 6:50 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>> > Still not Stasi. Seriously, let me know when you have a designated
>>> > political officer in your building and spies around every corner.
>>>
>>>  Perhaps deeper reading of the subject I suggested.  Look specifically
>>> for *why* in addition to *what* it was/is.  Seriously, on average we
>>> break 3 felonies a day, imagine how easy it must be to make people go
>>> away with near global communications intercept and capture ability
>>> awarded by secret courts with zero oversight.
>>>
>>> > But if you think the FBI, no matter hor broken and corrupt, you
>>> > are dreaming. The Stasi are the evil twin of the FBI mixed in with
>>> > 1984.
>>>
>>>  FBI?  No, the FBI is just one of the lucky pawn agencies that receives
>>> those magic tidbits of "evidence" that have to be written out of the
>>> "official" reports after the fact.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
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