[Chugalug] Silk Road and Bitcoins

William Roush william.roush at roushtech.net
Mon Oct 7 01:10:58 UTC 2013

No, I meant that we're having a public discussion that includes a lot of 
ranting about the government and not having our doors kicked in over it.

William Roush

On 10/6/2013 9:10 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:

> Silk Road? A person running a drugs trade on a website? The same 
> person who ACTIVELY sought and paid for what he thought was a hit on 
> someone who spoke ill of him?
> Not an innocent party, hell its called a black market for a reason: 
> Its illegal. I'm all for legalizing pot, but he wasn't just some kid 
> growing marijuana plants in his basement selling them on the side 
> through Tor to people with Bitcoins.
> If your site is trading in questionable goods that would be considered 
> illicit, you might get arrested.
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM, William Roush 
> <william.roush at roushtech.net <mailto:william.roush at roushtech.net>> wrote:
>     The fact that this very thread is going on...
>     William Roush
>     On 10/6/2013 8:23 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>     Still not Stasi. This is about as bad as someone comparing the
>>     Police to Nazis and the Gestapo because they get arrested.
>>     Once again, if you think in any way that our country is ANYWHERE
>>     and ANYWAY comparable to a 1950s era Soviet Secret Police unit,
>>     you are out of your mind.
>>     And the NSA? As bad as they are, I've yet to see really any
>>     convincing evidence that they are using Prism to arrest people
>>     for speaking foul of Obama or Congress/Senate. So, its not the
>>     Stasi. They'd arrest you just for TALKING about overthrowing the
>>     government, the Tea Party's more radical factions are living
>>     proof that you do not live in a Stasi like law enforcement era.
>>     Then they'd torture you for talking about rebelling to find out
>>     who your friends were, or threaten you with death and
>>     'disappearing' you.
>>     The 'American' Stasi would have made the Tea Party disappear long
>>     ago for even talking about overthrowing the government.
>>     Please, if you are going to compare NSA/Prism/FBI/CIA to the
>>     Stasi, KGB, Gestapo, or any other extreme right wing/communist
>>     era draconian secret police, have something to show for it. I
>>     don't know, arrest for speaking bad about Obama, or hating on
>>     capitalism.
>>     And as far as Zersetzung, don't make me laugh. You have never
>>     experience psychological...unless you are literally telling me
>>     people are breaking into your house and rearranging your
>>     bookshelf and plates. The comparison is very poor.
>>     On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com
>>     <mailto:dave at brockmans.com>> wrote:
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>>         On 10/6/2013 6:50 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
>>         > Still not Stasi. Seriously, let me know when you have a
>>         designated
>>         > political officer in your building and spies around every
>>         corner.
>>         Perhaps deeper reading of the subject I suggested.  Look
>>         specifically
>>         for *why* in addition to *what* it was/is.  Seriously, on
>>         average we
>>         break 3 felonies a day, imagine how easy it must be to make
>>         people go
>>         away with near global communications intercept and capture
>>         ability
>>         awarded by secret courts with zero oversight.
>>         > But if you think the FBI, no matter hor broken and corrupt, you
>>         > are dreaming. The Stasi are the evil twin of the FBI mixed
>>         in with
>>         > 1984.
>>         FBI?  No, the FBI is just one of the lucky pawn agencies that
>>         receives
>>         those magic tidbits of "evidence" that have to be written out
>>         of the
>>         "official" reports after the fact.
>>         Regards,
>>         dtb
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