[Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 13 21:17:07 UTC 2013


Great. We'll there's a gaming netbook someone's making
On Nov 13, 2013 4:09 PM, "Aaron welch" <n2nightfall at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Razer is a piece of sh!t that is useless without attaching a bunch of
> accessories to it so that it is functional.  Speaking as a former owner and
> current owner of the Razer Blade that is also a POS.
>
> -AW
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-17-3-laptop-12gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/9560016.p?id=1219021957327&skuId=9560016&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9560016&extensionType={adtype}:{network}&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!{keyword}!{matchtype}!{adwords_producttargetid}!{network}!{ifmobile:M}!{creative}&kpid=9560016&k_clickid=e48731e1-f4be-47a4-9cab-3e15d5a4ef74
>>
>> Please tell me what you do that even remotely needs 2880 x 1800. Even if
>> you watch HD movies, they don't exceed 1080 resolution, maybe if you do
>> Photoshop or CAD it MIGHT be worth it.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I think the Apple premium is hilarious for something I cannot
>> repair myself, and the ability to customize my hardware and repair it goes
>> a long way more than resale value, mainly because usually I'm not planning
>> to resell my laptop like my car. If I burn out the graphics in my Dell
>> Precision? I can swap in a new graphics card. If I burn it out in my HP
>> Elitebook? Same thing. If the battery fails, its cheap and easy to
>> purchase. If the Keyboard gets soaked by my 1 year old, its like 5 seconds
>> to swap it out.
>>
>> Screw unibody designs, I don't know why people like them beyond the sleek
>> feel, because otherwise their just a maintenance nightmare. Maybe we just
>> have different interests and views, I agree, and its not like Apple Macbook
>> Pros are BAD, that isn't what I'm saying, but if I had to choose between
>> modular and customization and unibody and sleek, I'll take modular and
>> customize-able any day. For the price
>>
>> If the only selling point is the screen, then I have a hard time biting
>> that. For mobility I don't need that sort of resolution, but if I'm at home
>> I have a 2800x1800 screen I can plug into and get that resolution.
>>
>> If there was ONE thing I would buy that is Unibody, I'd throw down the
>> $1,500 for the Razer Edge Pro gaming Tablet:
>>
>> http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-edge-pro
>>
>> Dual Core i7 1.9Ghz - 3.0 Ghz Turbo
>> 8GB DDR3 (16GB Max)
>> Nvidia GT 640M 2GB w/ Intel GMA Hybrid
>> 10.1" (1366x768) (Okay the Resolution isn't great)
>> 128GB or 256GB SSD
>> 2.1lbs
>>
>> That is my dream tablet, throw some Red Hat on it and dual boot with
>> Windows 7 and I'm in heaven.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jason Griffey <griffey at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is plastic, and as Chad noted, the screen isn't even remotely close
>>> to the same quality. Slightly slower clockspeed on the processor (probably
>>> not enough to ever notice, but there it is). What's the battery life like?
>>> The Samsung is a fine computer, but I don't think you can reasonably
>>> compare the build quality to the macbook pro.
>>>
>>> Apple makes _fantastic_ hardware, and charges a premium for it. Their
>>> hardware also retains its value over time. $1000 for that Retina Pro would
>>> be an amazing deal.
>>>
>>> jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <
>>> shadowhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://dft.ba/-7ayU
>>>>
>>>> Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I
>>>> bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <griffey at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:
>>>>>
>>>>> So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or
>>>>> more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15
>>>>> inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500.
>>>>> What would your suggestion be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't say they don't sell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in
>>>>>> another format.
>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <ebwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
>>>>>>> Eric B. Wolf                           720-334-7734
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <
>>>>>>> ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple
>>>>>>>> brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of
>>>>>>>> Gamers or something with more guts.
>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <ebwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $1000 seems a little low. A quick eBay check says $1699-$1899.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Laptop-Retina-Display-2-6ghz-i7-8gb-256-10-cycles-LOADED-/281205034009?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item4179204c19
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-Retina-2-6ghz-i7-15-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-MC976LL-A-Certified-/231082983388?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item35cd9e7fdc>
>>>>>>>>> -Pro-Retina-2-6ghz-i7-15-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-MC976LL-A-Certified-/231082983388?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item35cd9e7fdc<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-Retina-2-6ghz-i7-15-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-MC976LL-A-Certified-/231082983388?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item35cd9e7fdc>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-15-MacBook-Pro-Retina-2-6GHz-I7-256GB-SSD-8GB-MC975LL-Warranty-Box-/121158202439?pt=Apple_Laptops&hash=item1c35977447
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
>>>>>>>>> Eric B. Wolf                           720-334-7734
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
>>>>>>>>>> > upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about
>>>>>>>>>> $600
>>>>>>>>>> > off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
>>>>>>>>>> > should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> price of their sticker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>  Regardless of
>>>>>>>>>> the age of the sticker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dtb
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