[Chugalug] Raspberry Pi on track to sell more units than Apple II computers

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 7 02:00:31 UTC 2013


Then just call it the death of the desktop. I think 'The Death of the PC'
is too general and bloated a term.


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Rod <rod-lists at epbfi.com> wrote:

>
> I'm sorry PC is a personal computer vs say the old main frames and time
> shares.
> Modern servers are meant to be be used by lots of folks at once.
> Hence not "personal".  True people like you and me have personal servers.
> But that isn't the norm.
> Mobiles and tablet whether I like it or not are the the new "PC's"
>
> On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:17:55 -0500, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Technically? Yes. A Server is just an overpowered PC. How is that NOT a
> PC? Beyond the fact that you are arguing that its purpose isn't a
> 'personal' purpose. Yet I can take a Server out of service, throw
> practically any flavor OS on it, and it'll work. Hell, I had a server I
> used for PC gaming for a long time, was one of the BEST gaming PCs I ever
> had.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So a super-computer array of servers is a PC - if they are using x86-64
>> CPUs?
>>
>> If so, then the PC is not going to die any time soon.
>>
>> I think that is *your* definition of a PC, and a fine one at that.  But
>> it isn't the same definition everyone is using when they talk about the
>> "Death of the PC".  Usually (and everyone is different, so this is not
>> universally the case) they are talking about a Desktop or a Laptop -
>> regardless of CPU, so an Apple ][ would count, and so would an iBook, and
>> so would an ARM netbook running some form of Linux.
>>
>> The distinction is being drawn between a PC and a Tablet.  So - to me,
>> that indicates they are referring mainly to the form factor, not the CPU.
>>  The other distinction - and one you seem to be referring to when you
>> mention the CPU - is the OS.  Windows/OS X/Desktop Linux vs.
>> iOS/Android/etc..
>>
>> The problem is - Android can run on x86-64, what about Chrome?  or an XP
>> phone?  And where does Windows 8 RM fit?
>>
>> I know you've answered some of those questions for your own understanding
>> of it, and reasoning for it.  But I think your definition being different
>> from the people making those claims is one of the main reasons you think
>> it's a silly thought, and they don't.
>>
>> If you defined PC the same way they are using it, then it might not be so
>> unreasonable to think of the PC as dying.
>>
>> And, as we've discussed before - a format being "Dead" doesn't mean it's
>> no longer used by anyone anywhere.
>>
>> Betamax is dead - and so is VHS for that matter - but people still use
>> both.  8-Tracks, LPs, cassettes, floppy discs... SCSI drives.... Windows
>> 95....  All "Dead" - but not completely removed from existence.
>>
>> (The office where I used to work had a Windows 95 machine running up
>> until 2010.)
>>
>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> X86 or x86-64 is PC. Therefore Surface Pro is a PC. Android Tablet or
>>> iPad? Not PC.
>>>
>>> PC must be IBM compatible.
>>>
>>
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