[Chugalug] Raspberry Pi on track to sell more units than Apple II computers
chad78 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 7 01:28:36 UTC 2013
Ok - but when people talk about the death of the PC - they are not talking
about servers. That's why your definition isn't the same as the one they
*- Chad W. Smith*
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
> Technically? Yes. A Server is just an overpowered PC. How is that NOT a
> PC? Beyond the fact that you are arguing that its purpose isn't a
> 'personal' purpose. Yet I can take a Server out of service, throw
> practically any flavor OS on it, and it'll work. Hell, I had a server I
> used for PC gaming for a long time, was one of the BEST gaming PCs I ever
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So a super-computer array of servers is a PC - if they are using x86-64
>> If so, then the PC is not going to die any time soon.
>> I think that is *your* definition of a PC, and a fine one at that. But
>> it isn't the same definition everyone is using when they talk about the
>> "Death of the PC". Usually (and everyone is different, so this is not
>> universally the case) they are talking about a Desktop or a Laptop -
>> regardless of CPU, so an Apple ][ would count, and so would an iBook, and
>> so would an ARM netbook running some form of Linux.
>> The distinction is being drawn between a PC and a Tablet. So - to me,
>> that indicates they are referring mainly to the form factor, not the CPU.
>> The other distinction - and one you seem to be referring to when you
>> mention the CPU - is the OS. Windows/OS X/Desktop Linux vs.
>> The problem is - Android can run on x86-64, what about Chrome? or an XP
>> phone? And where does Windows 8 RM fit?
>> I know you've answered some of those questions for your own understanding
>> of it, and reasoning for it. But I think your definition being different
>> from the people making those claims is one of the main reasons you think
>> it's a silly thought, and they don't.
>> If you defined PC the same way they are using it, then it might not be so
>> unreasonable to think of the PC as dying.
>> And, as we've discussed before - a format being "Dead" doesn't mean it's
>> no longer used by anyone anywhere.
>> Betamax is dead - and so is VHS for that matter - but people still use
>> both. 8-Tracks, LPs, cassettes, floppy discs... SCSI drives.... Windows
>> 95.... All "Dead" - but not completely removed from existence.
>> (The office where I used to work had a Windows 95 machine running up
>> until 2010.)
>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> X86 or x86-64 is PC. Therefore Surface Pro is a PC. Android Tablet or
>>> iPad? Not PC.
>>> PC must be IBM compatible.
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