[Chugalug] Raspberry Pi on track to sell more units than Apple II computers

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 7 01:17:55 UTC 2013

Technically? Yes. A Server is just an overpowered PC. How is that NOT a PC?
Beyond the fact that you are arguing that its purpose isn't a 'personal'
purpose. Yet I can take a Server out of service, throw practically any
flavor OS on it, and it'll work. Hell, I had a server I used for PC gaming
for a long time, was one of the BEST gaming PCs I ever had.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So a super-computer array of servers is a PC - if they are using x86-64
> CPUs?
> If so, then the PC is not going to die any time soon.
> I think that is *your* definition of a PC, and a fine one at that.  But it
> isn't the same definition everyone is using when they talk about the "Death
> of the PC".  Usually (and everyone is different, so this is not universally
> the case) they are talking about a Desktop or a Laptop - regardless of CPU,
> so an Apple ][ would count, and so would an iBook, and so would an ARM
> netbook running some form of Linux.
> The distinction is being drawn between a PC and a Tablet.  So - to me,
> that indicates they are referring mainly to the form factor, not the CPU.
>  The other distinction - and one you seem to be referring to when you
> mention the CPU - is the OS.  Windows/OS X/Desktop Linux vs.
> iOS/Android/etc..
> The problem is - Android can run on x86-64, what about Chrome?  or an XP
> phone?  And where does Windows 8 RM fit?
> I know you've answered some of those questions for your own understanding
> of it, and reasoning for it.  But I think your definition being different
> from the people making those claims is one of the main reasons you think
> it's a silly thought, and they don't.
> If you defined PC the same way they are using it, then it might not be so
> unreasonable to think of the PC as dying.
> And, as we've discussed before - a format being "Dead" doesn't mean it's
> no longer used by anyone anywhere.
> Betamax is dead - and so is VHS for that matter - but people still use
> both.  8-Tracks, LPs, cassettes, floppy discs... SCSI drives.... Windows
> 95....  All "Dead" - but not completely removed from existence.
> (The office where I used to work had a Windows 95 machine running up until
> 2010.)
> *- Chad W. Smith*
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>> X86 or x86-64 is PC. Therefore Surface Pro is a PC. Android Tablet or
>> iPad? Not PC.
>> PC must be IBM compatible.
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