[Chugalug] Raspberry Pi on track to sell more units than Apple II computers

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 7 00:01:19 UTC 2013


Androids file system hasn't bothered me too bad, since its just a *nix file
system so it was easy to get used to, but its somewhat of a pain to manage
files without a third party file management system.

I have no clue how iPad does their file management.


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Phil Sieg <phil.sieg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok I need to jump in to the latter part of this discussion regarding
> moving from a laptop to a “tablet”, and vast number of consumers doing
> this...
>
> I am trying to make this move personally. I have a maxed out iPad mini
> with a fantastic bluetooth KB case from Zagg. Everything is just lovely as
> long as I have access to fast internet.
>
> As a frequent traveler I often do NOT have access to quality internet.
>
> Here are just a few of the problems that occur:
>
> 1. I made a new hotel reservation that needs to be printed out. I am in a
> hotel and their printers are not “air-print”. If I could just get my email
> to turn into a .pdf and be on a thumb drive I could then hand it to the
> hotel clerk and say “print”. Try this process with an iPad sometime and
> count the steps and need for an internet connection. Sometimes these are
> hard to come by in China/Philippines/Banana Republic etc…. And without a
> printed plane ticket or reservation you may find it impossible to do things
> like take a ferry from mainland China to the Airport in Hong Kong.
>
> 2. A real “File System” where my hundreds of business docs, spreads etc
> can be logically organized, and then easily accessed through local storage.
>
> 3. a way to get anything onto my iPad with iTunes or the internet. I
> bought a wifi thumb drive from sandisk that is way cool and cheap that
> helps, but is still problematic without an accessible hierarchical
> filesystem that allows “drag and drop”
>
> These are but a fraction of the reasons I am finding it impossible to
> abandon my laptop.
>
> Since every flight I get to China is full both ways and I go 4 times a
> year, I do not think that business travelers such as myself are a minority.
>
> My iPad is great for reading and creating emails, and for ebooks and
> streaming video. If you need much more than that it becomes a LOT harder to
> use than any laptop with any OS.
>
> FWIW YMMV
>
> Phil Sieg
> President
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>
> *"The computer is the most remarkable tool that we have ever come up with.
> It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds"*
>
> *Steve Jobs, 1955-2011*
>
> On November 6, 2013 at 6:11:53 PM, Chad Smith (chad78 at gmail.com<//chad78 at gmail.com>)
> wrote:
>
> Here's the point, though, on my tablet, I can play AAA console quality
> video game titles, like the Arkham series, Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell,
> Metro, Homefront, LA Noire, Darksiders, etc. --  Not mobile versions, but
> the PC version - through OnLive.  Steam, Sony, EA, whoever - could offer
> something like that if they wanted to.
>
> CAD software exists for iOS and Android.
>
> I have no idea what CUDA is - and I'm at least semi-Geeky - so I doubt the
> majority of PC users care about it.
>
> I can use Microsoft Office on my tablet - not just office-like apps - but
> full-fledged Microsoft Office, through CloudOn, and OnLive.
>
> These games, these apps, etc. - they exist on a server somewhere, not on a
> PC, and I can use them through my tablet.  Not in theory - but I can do
> that right now, today.
>
> Once stuff like that catches on...  There won't be anything to keep the PC
> alive for the mainstream consumer.
>
> I can plug in my tablet to my HDTV, and use a Bluetooth keyboard and
> mouse, or game controller remote, and have a "traditional" user experience.
>
> *- Chad W. Smith*
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Michael Scholten <dmscholten at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Would if I could, but I can't so I shant... :p
>>
>> Ya, anywho... I think I shall go back to lerking in my corner....
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tim Youngblood <timyoungblood at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Actually you could say it is just steam, and not truly Steam. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its not steam. Just a chat client and store front.
>>>>  On Nov 6, 2013 12:26 PM, "Chad Smith" <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  http://store.steampowered.com/mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.valvesoftware.android.steam.community
>>>>>
>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/search?q=CAD&c=apps
>>>>>
>>>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whe I can install standard Windows apps like Steam, CAD, or my
>>>>>> Mathematics apps that utilize CUDA on a tablet, the PC will disappear.
>>>>>>  On Nov 6, 2013 12:11 PM, "Chad Smith" <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have family members that got tablets in the last year or so and
>>>>>>> almost never touch their laptops anymore.  Between their tablet and their
>>>>>>> smartphone, they have no need for the PC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For people who are only into casual use of their computers - media
>>>>>>> consumption, casual games, social networking, etc. - the PC is already dead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason tablets and smartphones are able to be so useful is
>>>>>>> because of the cloud.  For a lot of the apps - the bulk of the work is done
>>>>>>> somewhere else - the media is stored online and streamed to the device
>>>>>>> (Pandora, YouTube, Netflix) for example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the next big thing for mobile devices will be more a VNC
>>>>>>> type model - something like OnLive ( onlive.com ) or CloudOn (
>>>>>>> cloudon.com )...  Yes, OnLive failed at first, and may not ever
>>>>>>> really recover - but that wasn't because the model was bad, it was because
>>>>>>> of mismanagement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the idea of having your mobile device basically serve as a thin
>>>>>>> client to a much more powerful computer - I think that's going to be one of
>>>>>>> the things that makes the traditional PC obsolete.  If I can carry a $50
>>>>>>> device in my pocket, and pay... idk... $50 a year? ... to have access to a
>>>>>>> portion of a supercomputer... and the interface works with my hardware....
>>>>>>>  Why wouldn't I do that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, there are security issues - but for the vast majority of
>>>>>>> users... If the broadband is there, why not use it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Dave Brockman <dave at brockmans.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2013 10:52 AM, Tim Youngblood wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Is the PC dead? It is on life support.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2013/11/5/mobile-is-eating-the-world-autumn-2013-edition
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> know anyone buying phones or tablets to replace computers?  In
>>>>>>>> my experience, all we are seeing are these things: New shiny gadgets
>>>>>>>> are selling.  Powerful enough PCs of a 4-5 year old vintage aren't
>>>>>>>> being replaced as quickly as in prior years, no new OS to drive
>>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>>> and better hardware specs.  Anyone have differing experience?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dtb
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