[Chugalug] Raspberry Pi on track to sell more units than Apple II computers

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 5 18:39:03 UTC 2013


Ah, my mistake. Its a PC then. Too bad it has Intel Graphics.

Intel should just stop doing their integrated graphics, team up with Nvidia
like ATI/AMD and go that route.

I thought you were talking about the other Surface.
On Nov 5, 2013 1:36 PM, "Chad Smith" <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Surface Pro 2 is running a 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5 Processor.
>
> The Surface is not x64 - but the Pro is.  Or are x64 desktops not PCs?
>
>
> *- Chad W. Smith*
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Surface Pro is not a PC because it is not x86 compatible, at least that
>> is my definition.
>> On Nov 5, 2013 1:21 PM, "Chad Smith" <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Depends on your definition of a PC.  Is a PC a desktop?
>>>
>>> I highly doubt the average person will be using a desktop computer in 10
>>> years, or even 5.  At least not outside of the office.  I'd be interested
>>> to see how many are using a desktop at home today.
>>>
>>> But if you define it as an X86 machine, or a X64 machine, regardless of
>>> form factor, then it will probably be a lot longer.
>>>
>>> I mean, let me put it this way - is a Microsoft Surface Pro a "PC"?
>>>  What about the XP phone from a few years back?  If a smartphone runs on an
>>> Intel Atom chip - is it a smartphone or a PC?
>>>
>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> PC's death gets forcasted like every other year now.
>>>> On Nov 5, 2013 11:36 AM, "Tim Youngblood" <timyoungblood at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All that aside (thanks for saving me the words Chad) the most vital
>>>>> aspect is that PC sales penetration into homes had flattened out over the
>>>>> past decade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now here we are with a device that could break through the price
>>>>> issue. The question is whether it is one of price, or one of culture? I'm
>>>>> voting the latter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Wil Wade <willm.wade at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in a time when computers are far more mainstream
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Computers are only mainstream if you count all the people who cannot
>>>>>> open theirs.
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