[Chugalug] cloud

gary hasty ghasty at hastypudding.com
Mon Jan 14 16:42:21 UTC 2013


We always encourage folks in that instance to encrypt on their end and they
maintain the keys. That way the data is useless without the warrant to you
for the keys.

On Monday, January 14, 2013, Stephen Haywood wrote:

> Another thing to think about, typically "cloud" data can be accessed with
> a subpeona. If the servers are still in your possession, a warrant would be
> necessary. May not make much difference but it could be an issue. Along
> those same lines, if your "cloudy" provider also provides "cloudy" services
> to shady folks, you could lose your data and servers when the FBI comes in
> to shut down the shady folks.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Ed King <chevyiinova at bellsouth.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'chevyiinova at bellsouth.net');>
> > wrote:
>
>> I brought that up...   how we would still have to have someone on-site to
>> maintain workstations, printers, network, and of course our field
>> tablets, but
>> it falls on deaf ears.  All he heard from them was "it will be about
>> $400/month".
>>
>>
>> Eric mentioned the freedom/control pendulum...   all I can say is that
>> we've had
>> awesome uptime/availability from all the servers I maintain around here,
>> if/when there's a problem, I'm "on it" like stink on shit.  Let's see
>> what kind
>> of support $400/month buys.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Dan Lyke <danlyke at flutterby.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'danlyke at flutterby.com');>>
>> To: chugalug at chugalug.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'chugalug at chugalug.org');>
>> Sent: Mon, January 14, 2013 10:27:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] cloud
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:07:03 -0800 (PST)
>> Ed King <chevyiinova at bellsouth.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'chevyiinova at bellsouth.net');>> wrote:
>> > services?   I've done my own Google'ing and didn't like what I saw,
>> > yet, the powers that be want to continue down the "cloudy" path
>> > because "noone around here will work for $400/month".
>>
>> Because they're going to outsource the desktop machines, too?
>>
>> You have my sympathies...
>>
>> Dan
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