[Chugalug] Learning C/C++

kitepilot at kitepilot.com kitepilot at kitepilot.com
Sun Aug 18 22:38:47 UTC 2013


Fair'nuff...
Where and when?
ET 


William Wade writes: 

> Time & location dependent, but I would love to jump in on a C++ workshop. 
> 
> Wil 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:21 PM, <kitepilot at kitepilot.com> wrote: 
> 
>> If I measure it from previous interest, it will be you and I.
>> And most likely my C++ victim...
>> ET 
>>
>>
>> Jon Stanford writes: 
>>
>>> I would absolutely love to trade knowledge! How should we set that up?
>>> Maybe you teach a workshop on C++ and I'll do the same for Android? Or if
>>> we are the only interested parties we could just meet somewhere for a
>>> couple one on one hackathons?
>>> kitepilot at kitepilot.com wrote: 
>>>
>>>> Hello Jon, I did a few years of professional C before I ventured into
>>>> C++.
>>>> First of, C is not C++, and vice versa.
>>>> You can write 'C like stuff' in C++, but you will have an steeper slope
>>>> to climb into C++ if you learn C first.  And vice versa...
>>>> The problem is that the differences are subtle and sneaky, and you will
>>>> shoot yourself in the foot meandering around them.
>>>> It is a lot more difficult to shoot yourself in the foot with C++ than
>>>> in C, but when you, you blow the whole leg...
>>>> I'd advise against going the C route because there is no C  market out
>>>> there.  Unless you are writing kernel stuff, device driver or embedded
>>>> programs.  And you will invalidate the 'advantage' of knowing OO.
>>>> Sometime ago I offered free C++ classes in the library and only one
>>>> victim bit into it, and he has been suffering ever since.  The guy is, as
>>>> you might say, a glutton for punishment.  He may or may not come forward to
>>>> you, but he certainly started at a much lower level than you would and he
>>>> has (AMAZINGLY!) actually learnt something.  And he reads this list...
>>>> ;-)
>>>> With all that baloney said, I'd gladly trade you some C++ classes for
>>>> Android development classes.  I'll even throw in there some hours of (valid
>>>> FAA training) flight instruction.
>>>> Any interest?
>>>> ET
>>>> PS: And I am a better teacher than a programmer.  So goes for flying
>>>> too.  I am a better instructor than a pilot... 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon Stanford writes: 
>>>>
>>>>> I've been using Java for 3-4 years now so I've got a pretty advanced
>>>>> understanding of OOP in general.  I wouldn't call myself an expert but I'm
>>>>> fairly good with Java, to the point where I'm thinking of getting certified
>>>>> by Oracle.  My usage of Java has been mostly in the context of Android. The
>>>>> reason I'll wanting to learn both C and C++ is so I can use the NDK.
>>>>> Just trying to have a fuller understanding of Android. Maybe I'll have
>>>>> another reason for the languages but for now my usage is pretty narrow.
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