[Chugalug] OT but cool: New Fuel Cell coming out in 2014

Stephen Kraus ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 18 19:18:00 UTC 2013


That seems incredibly valid and useful.
On Aug 18, 2013 3:16 PM, "Aaron Welch" <n2nightfall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Industrial scale cogeneration on manufacturing exhaust would be awesome.
>  If you take waste heat from a process and use it to create or offset the
> need for power on the input side a business could save millions per year
> not to mention lowering their carbon footprint.
>
> -AW
>
> On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Rod-Lists <rod-lists at epbfi.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Stephen that is only in a co-generation configuration in which they are
> capturing the heat of the system and putting it to work.
> >
> > I think every generating system should be co-generation but doesn't
> always happen.
> > I also wondered about coupling geothermal to thermoelectric systems or
> stirling engines to generate electricity thus getting co-gerneration from
> the other direction.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Breaking it down implies Hydrogen, either way 80% is either
> >> impressive or bullshit as far as the law of thermodynamics
> >> On Aug 17, 2013 10:50 PM, "Rod-Lists" < rod-lists at epbfi.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It doesn't generate H or methane, it breaks it down.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't know, I don't want anything generating hydrogen in that
> >>> amount near my house.
> >>>
> >>> Diesel and biodiesel for me thanks.
> >>>
> >>> 80% efficiency seems a bit on the high side too, and theres been
> >>> setups claiming efficiency like this that were found to be
> >>> overstated in the past.
> >>> On Aug 17, 2013 10:04 PM, "Chad Smith" < chad78 at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2 year ROI. Not bad.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Man, the wannabe "prepper" in me is drooling.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Chad W. Smith
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rod-Lists < rod-lists at epbfi.com >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> New 25 Kw fuel cell tech that is claiming 80% efficiency in a
> >>> co-generation setup.
> >>> They claim they dropped the temperature down to 300 degrees and it
> >>> is
> >>> the size of a dishwasher.
> >>>
> >>> Currently runs on methane but could do hydrogen.
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans-to-roll-out-dishwasher-sized-fuel-cells-that-cost-90-less-than-currently-available-fuel-cells/
> >>>
> >>>
> http://mtech.umd.edu/news/press_releases/redox_wachsman_fuel_cells.html
> >>>
> >>> http://www.diverse-energy.com/powercube.php
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