[Chugalug] OT but cool: New Fuel Cell coming out in 2014

Aaron Welch n2nightfall at gmail.com
Sun Aug 18 19:12:49 UTC 2013


Industrial scale cogeneration on manufacturing exhaust would be awesome.  If you take waste heat from a process and use it to create or offset the need for power on the input side a business could save millions per year not to mention lowering their carbon footprint.

-AW

On Aug 18, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Rod-Lists <rod-lists at epbfi.com> wrote:

> 
> Stephen that is only in a co-generation configuration in which they are capturing the heat of the system and putting it to work.
> 
> I think every generating system should be co-generation but doesn't always happen.
> I also wondered about coupling geothermal to thermoelectric systems or stirling engines to generate electricity thus getting co-gerneration from the other direction.
> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Breaking it down implies Hydrogen, either way 80% is either
>> impressive or bullshit as far as the law of thermodynamics
>> On Aug 17, 2013 10:50 PM, "Rod-Lists" < rod-lists at epbfi.com > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It doesn't generate H or methane, it breaks it down.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't know, I don't want anything generating hydrogen in that
>>> amount near my house.
>>> 
>>> Diesel and biodiesel for me thanks.
>>> 
>>> 80% efficiency seems a bit on the high side too, and theres been
>>> setups claiming efficiency like this that were found to be
>>> overstated in the past.
>>> On Aug 17, 2013 10:04 PM, "Chad Smith" < chad78 at gmail.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2 year ROI. Not bad.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Man, the wannabe "prepper" in me is drooling.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Chad W. Smith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rod-Lists < rod-lists at epbfi.com >
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> New 25 Kw fuel cell tech that is claiming 80% efficiency in a
>>> co-generation setup.
>>> They claim they dropped the temperature down to 300 degrees and it
>>> is
>>> the size of a dishwasher.
>>> 
>>> Currently runs on methane but could do hydrogen.
>>> 
>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans-to-roll-out-dishwasher-sized-fuel-cells-that-cost-90-less-than-currently-available-fuel-cells/
>>> 
>>> http://mtech.umd.edu/news/press_releases/redox_wachsman_fuel_cells.html
>>> 
>>> http://www.diverse-energy.com/powercube.php
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