[Chugalug] Learning C/C++

Jon Stanford jbirdvegas at aokp.co
Sat Aug 17 02:43:35 UTC 2013


I would absolutely love to trade knowledge! How should we set that up? Maybe you teach a workshop on C++ and I'll do the same for Android? Or if we are the only interested parties we could just meet somewhere for a couple one on one hackathons?

kitepilot at kitepilot.com wrote:

>Hello Jon, I did a few years of professional C before I ventured into C++.
>First of, C is not C++, and vice versa.
>You can write 'C like stuff' in C++, but you will have an steeper slope to 
>climb into C++ if you learn C first.  And vice versa... 
>
>The problem is that the differences are subtle and sneaky, and you will 
>shoot yourself in the foot meandering around them.
>It is a lot more difficult to shoot yourself in the foot with C++ than in C, 
>but when you, you blow the whole leg... 
>
>I'd advise against going the C route because there is no C  market out 
>there.  Unless you are writing kernel stuff, device driver or embedded 
>programs.  And you will invalidate the 'advantage' of knowing OO. 
>
>Sometime ago I offered free C++ classes in the library and only one victim 
>bit into it, and he has been suffering ever since.  The guy is, as you might 
>say, a glutton for punishment.  He may or may not come forward to you, but 
>he certainly started at a much lower level than you would and he has 
>(AMAZINGLY!) actually learnt something.  And he reads this list...   ;-) 
>
>With all that baloney said, I'd gladly trade you some C++ classes for 
>Android development classes.  I'll even throw in there some hours of (valid 
>FAA training) flight instruction.
>Any interest?
>ET 
>
>PS: And I am a better teacher than a programmer.  So goes for flying too.  I 
>am a better instructor than a pilot... 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Jon Stanford writes: 
>
>> I've been using Java for 3-4 years now so I've got a pretty advanced understanding of OOP in general.  I wouldn't call myself an expert but I'm fairly good with Java, to the point where I'm thinking of getting certified by Oracle.  My usage of Java has been mostly in the context of Android. The reason I'll wanting to learn both C and C++ is so I can use the NDK. 
>> 
>> Just trying to have a fuller understanding of Android. Maybe I'll have another reason for the languages but for now my usage is pretty narrow.
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