[Chugalug] BFL Single

Chad Smith chad78 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 10 03:12:51 UTC 2012


Can you send me a link to your auction?  I can't find it on ebay (searching
completed listings or active).

I ask because I want to copy it so I can sell one for $749 and then order
it from Butterfly Labs for $599 and have it sent to the winner.

*- Chad W. Smith*



On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Eric Wolf <ebwolf at gmail.com> wrote:

> FYI: I just sold it for $749+shipping on eBay.
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> -Eric
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> Eric B. Wolf                           720-334-7734
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> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Lynn Dixon <boodaddy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Chad,
>> With the prices of the Jalapeno you should be able to make the entire
>> purchase price back in a few months, maybe less if you get it before the
>> difficulty goes insane.  ASICs are going to be a huge game changer in
>> bitcoin mining, just as much as moving from CPU to GPU mining was.  The
>> beauty of the Jalapeno is its super simple to operate, silent, and draws
>> less power than charging your mobile phone.
>> It actually draws 4.5 watts of power and BFL states you can power it from
>> any USB 2.0 computer with only a single USB plug (not like the old dual
>> headed dongles of optical drives long gone). They have been focusing on
>> their mining front-end called EasyMiner which, well, makes mining using
>> their hardware easy. :)
>>
>> The Jalapeno was specifically designed for new folks to get into mining
>> with little cost and risk, and without the complications of a huge mining
>> rig like I have. Everyone has also been calling the thing a "Coffee Warmer"
>> since you can set a cup of coffee on the thing and keep it warm.  Its also
>> going to pretty small so you can stuff it in your laptop bag, and simply
>> plug it in whenever you are wanting to mine, anywhere you happen to be.
>>
>> If you want to take a step a bit larger than the Jalapeno, but not as big
>> as a SC Single, BFL is introducing the yet-to-be-named "Mini Single" which
>> is half the power of the SC Single, and half the price as well.
>>
>> So the TLDR: Yes, the jalapeno is an excellent choice for someone who
>> wants to get into mining with no experience.  There is a good chance you
>> will make your money back in as little as 3 months or so.
>>
>> Heres some links:
>>
>> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/16-Announcement-BFL-ASIC-Release-specifications
>>
>>
>> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/251-More-Jalapeno-Pictures-amp-Shipping-Update
>>
>> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/190-More-board-pics
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>> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content.php/125-BFL-ASIC-Update
>>
>>
>> https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content.php/121-ASIC-Products-will-carry-a-lifetime-warranty
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried bitcoin mining a couple years back, and I don't think I ever got
>>> a single bitcoin - I didn't have any dedicated hardware and at the hash
>>> rate I was getting, I was losing money just in the power rate alone.
>>>
>>> That said - in your opinion - do you think getting a Jalapeno would be
>>> worth it for the noob bitcoin miner?
>>>
>>> I wouldn't expect to make a profit in a month or anything, but
>>> eventually - as in well less than a year.
>>>
>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Lynn Dixon <boodaddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> No offense intended on my offer.  I have been mining a long time, and
>>>> keeping up with the mining trends. I have some ASIC hardware (a few pieces
>>>> :) ) pre-ordered from BFL since the day the started taking pre-orders.  I
>>>> purchase mining hardware with a strict ROI figure in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Theres a good chance the person you bought the single from replaced the
>>>> fan with a larger, higher CFM unit.  That seems to be the trend on the
>>>> FPGAs (especially folks using some of the beta firmwares BFL releases).
>>>>
>>>> If you can sell that Single for $700 bucks on ebay, that might be the
>>>> best bet.  If I were you, I would try do a trade-in for an ASIC single, and
>>>> just find some way of mining the one you have until BFL asks you to send
>>>> your old one in.  They are giving full value on the trade even if you
>>>> weren't the original buyer.  Thats a sweet deal in itself. I'm not sure if
>>>> you heard, but they have "increased" the hash rate of the  SC singles to 60
>>>> GHash.
>>>> At the current difficulty and current MT. Gox prices, 850 MHash is
>>>> netting around $2.82 per day (about $85 per month). Theres a good chance
>>>> you will be able to mine the difference in trade in prices for one of their
>>>> SC Singles if you can bear the noise for a few months.
>>>> With BFL's new production lines they have been bragging about, and
>>>> being able to produce 500 units per day, the network is going to see some
>>>> massive increases in hashing power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Eric Wolf <ebwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My plan was to mine and trade up to the SC... But the Single's 32dB
>>>>> spec is way off. I'm reading close to 60dBC and 50dBA at normal operation.
>>>>> Since the thing needs to be tethered to a computer, I can't stash it
>>>>> anywhere out of ear-shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll just sell it on ebay where the Singles are hovering around $750.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
>>>>> Eric B. Wolf                           720-334-7734
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a trade in deal if you plan on getting one of the SC models -
>>>>>> http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Not the Jalapeno)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Chad Smith <chad78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I to understand that the sole purpose of these computers is
>>>>>>> BitCoin mining?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *- Chad W. Smith*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Lynn Dixon <boodaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>> The ASICs were first announced to be shipping late October, but
>>>>>>>> that date has slipped due to the chip manufacturers.  BFL is expecting to
>>>>>>>> ship late November, and they have promised to have every single pre-order
>>>>>>>> up to Nov. 1st shipped by the end of December.  They have also stated they
>>>>>>>> have paid for a bullet run production of 20k chips, and they have their
>>>>>>>> lines ready to produce 500 units per day once they receive the chips.  So,
>>>>>>>> within 45 to 60 days, the current BFL singles (FPGA) will be pretty much
>>>>>>>> worthless as anyone can pickup a Jalepeno for $149 that will hash at 5.5
>>>>>>>> times the speed of the current FPGA singles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, once they hit the market, the old singles will essentially be
>>>>>>>> worthless since a jalapeno is multitudes faster, multitudes cheaper, runs
>>>>>>>> silent, and only consumes about 5 watts of power.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your best bet is to just mine with the single you have now, try to
>>>>>>>> recover as much as you can from the purchase price you gave, and then once
>>>>>>>> the asics hit (which will skyrocket difficulty) turn off the old single
>>>>>>>> since the 800 mhash wont generate enough btc worth the electricity costs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thats why I am offering you the hosted solution.  If you are not
>>>>>>>> happy with the noise, I can mine with it on my current rig and give you
>>>>>>>> some of the profits.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other than that, I can offer you about $150 bucks for it since
>>>>>>>> thats about all the money I will make in the 2 months before the insane
>>>>>>>> difficulty rise makes 800 mhash worthless. Not to mention we're only about
>>>>>>>> 25-ish days away from the block reward halving, which has the potential to
>>>>>>>> reduce your profits by 50%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Eric Wolf <ebwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For how many months have the BFL ASIC singles been "shipping next
>>>>>>>>> month"? And if you ordered now, where will you be in the queue when (if?)
>>>>>>>>> they finally ship?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  -Eric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
>>>>>>>>> Eric B. Wolf                           720-334-7734
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Lynn Dixon <boodaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>>>> With BFL asics shipping in the next 30 days, you will have a hard
>>>>>>>>>> time selling that single for 100 bucks. The asic jalapeño will do 4.5 ghash
>>>>>>>>>> silently using about 5 watts of power and it sells for 149 right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In would be willing to host your single on my dedicated mining
>>>>>>>>>> rig and share profits with you. I have solid power and network and would
>>>>>>>>>> cover all electricity and cooling costs as well as provide the host rig for
>>>>>>>>>> the mining software.
>>>>>>>>>> We could create a joint pool account and both share the login for
>>>>>>>>>> it to avoid ambiguity and split the btc at a determined rate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If your interested in doing this let me know and we can discuss
>>>>>>>>>> details.
>>>>>>>>>> Boodaddy at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2012 6:36 PM, "Eric Wolf" <ebwolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Anyone want a BFL Single? I just got it off eBay but even with
>>>>>>>>>>> new fans, it's louder than I want in my workspace. I'm running autotune on
>>>>>>>>>>> it right now to see how fast it runs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to get $700 for it, shipping included.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric B. Wolf                           720-334-7734
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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